The worst possible choice for president

This video should drive a stake through the heart of the Giuliani campaign. Astonishing. Spread the word.


The Discussion: 14 Comments

I’d always assumed this was common knowledge. At least it was for people (like me) who were living in the tri-state area in 2001.

September 9, 2007 @ 6:30 pm | Comment

Worse than Romney?

Please, please, please can you boys choose better this time around – or I’m gonna start a one-man loony campaign to activate that 51st star on the flag and give us international citizens a bit of representation in the vote that ultimately matters most to us.

Go Obama!

September 9, 2007 @ 6:48 pm | Comment

Drudge this morning has him say that “: Illegal immigration not a crime, should not be a crime…”
In the interview itself with Glenn Beck, Giuliani is asked “(I)sn’t illegal immigration a crime in and of itself?” to which Giuliani replies “No”. Beck then puts it to him that he’s “protecting criminals by saying that being treated as a criminal is unfair.”
There goes the base….

September 9, 2007 @ 7:16 pm | Comment

With his history on immigration, abortion and gay rights, Giuliani was never going after the base. Things have shifted; the moderates are suddenly more important to the GOP than the base as they realize they managed to alienate the majority of Americans and need to either win them back or go belly up. So Giuliani may shrug off the base and still win. Maybe. He’s way ahead of every other Republican in the polls, which I find scary as hell.

Boo, I knew most of these things back in 2001 as well – but what I didn’t realize was that Giuliani would blatantly lie about it.

September 9, 2007 @ 7:47 pm | Comment

Yeah, but imagine the scene played out in today’s NYTimes that recounted how:
“vowing to end illegal immigration during one town-hall meeting in Iowa, Giuliani told the crowd, ‘Every other country does it, and we can do it.’ Then he clutched his heart and spoke softly. ‘It’s O.K. to do it.'” Brilliant!
I spent about an hour last night watching clips from and I hope to God he’s not elected (Rolling Stone compared him UNFAVOURABLY to Bush!)

September 10, 2007 @ 7:08 am | Comment

The answer’s clear – find a way to make sure McCain wins the Republican nomination.

September 10, 2007 @ 7:24 am | Comment

With his history on immigration, abortion and gay rights, Giuliani was never going after the base.

No way, Richard. The base may make sounds on gays and abortion and brown people, but Rudy appeals to them as the authoritarian Daddy figure. For example, the attempt at the end of his term in office to postpone elections and not leave. That’s something every Freeper could rally behind.

And in the end Freepers will vote for the Republican, no matter what noise gets made over there because it might keep a Democrat from winning. And winning and losing is really what it is all about for the base.

As for the video? You didn’t know this about the WTC and his command post? Just part of a much larger issue with Giuliani’s decision making about people around him. From Kerik’s mob ties and abuse of post-9/11 resources to Giuliani’s SC campaign lead being indicted on cocaine distribution.

The only interesting thing to take away from the video is the part of Chris Wallace and Fox Noise in it. Tells ya that Rudy isn’t Rupert’s man. I think that’s *clang clang* Fred Thompson of Law and Order and his fake red pickup.

September 10, 2007 @ 10:35 am | Comment

Long time reader, first time poster.

Richard, I’ve followed your politics for a while being a daily reader. You and your readers seriously need to check out Ron Paul. If you’ve got the time check out his trip to google. Great interview.
PS Raj you should check this guy out too.

September 10, 2007 @ 3:25 pm | Comment


Some of us here, including Richard, have indeed checked out Ron Paul very thoroughly, including his support base of neo-Nazis:

And as for “PS Raj you should check this guy out too”, RAJ has the good although occasionally mixed fortune of being British.

September 10, 2007 @ 6:08 pm | Comment

Tom, I knew all about the WTC command post on September 11 – I had followed the story a year or two earlier when Giuliani insisted on building the shelter. What was new for me was Rudy’s offhand lies about it – totally new, that he blamed others for the choice of location.

Jake, Ron Paul puts on a great show and stands out among his fellow candidates like a pearl among the swine – at first glance. It’s when you dig into his voting record and his history that you see he’s not someone progressives can vote for. It is telling, however, that his pull-out-of-Iraq-today message caused his ratings and campaign contributions to soar.

September 10, 2007 @ 6:37 pm | Comment

Had never heard of Ron Paul before, but I’m intrigued to read from that site Ivan kindly suggested we read that he “would collapse the Jewish infrastructure in this country”. Was that one of the issues up for the debate sponsored by Fox?

September 10, 2007 @ 8:14 pm | Comment

Ron Paul maybe smooth but he is definitely a fascist extreme right-winger. Some people like him because he doesn’t believe in government bail out. However, he doesn’t believe in government at all except his own (got it? He is pro-abolishment of Department of Education, NIH, etc). I won’t be even surprised that he is an anti-semi, wearing KKK mask, and worship Hitler.

In addition, you should never trust anyone who has a fisrt name as his last name. Giggles.

September 11, 2007 @ 3:08 am | Comment

The worst choice is Hillary, I mean Bill!

September 11, 2007 @ 11:42 am | Comment

@ Keir, yep, Ron Paul’s neo-nazi support base are hoping he “would collapse the Jewish infrastructure in this country”

Although I’m not sure how much of America’s infrastructure is Jewish, except for the guys who make my favourite bagels.

My favourite piece of Jewish infrastructure is Cyd Charisse:

September 11, 2007 @ 5:14 pm | Comment

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