Chinese New Year Thread

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A street in Xishuangbanna

Richard heads for the airport in an hour, and from there on to Arizona for 9 days. Thank God for Eva Air’s relatively cheap Economy Deluxe class, a god-send for tall people like me.

Lisa and guest bloggers will be helping to keep things moving, and maybe I’ll have time to put something up next week. Until then, a heartfelt “Xin nian kuai le” to everyone who helps make this community what it is. That applies to everyone, even the lurkers (like my mother). Thanks.

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Richard Burger is the author of Behind the Red Door: Sex in China, an exploration of China's sexual revolution and its clash with traditional Chinese values.

The Discussion: 81 Comments

I looked at the photos you mention and I must state that I consider his face to have grown noticeably fatter.

January 30, 2006 @ 3:40 am | Comment

The wanker’s back.

MAJ has stolen my Sojourner handle. My last comment was the Peter Rabbit one.

Read the last five “Sojourner” postings. It’s him.

Look, MAJ, taking other people’s handles is just plain nasty and unpleasant.

Get a fecking life!!!!

January 30, 2006 @ 4:19 am | Comment

REAL Sojourner, I truly am sorry to have stolen your name and email address, but I ain’t MAJ. Truth is, I occasionally do leave comments on this place, and I hadn’t noticed you before this. I figured you were indeed just a sojourner here, so I thought there would be no real harm in borrowing your name and address. I didn’t want to use my usual name because I wanted to get something off my chest that has been bugging me for some time now, and that’s how much this MAJ guy puzzles me. To do this I needed to mention his positive writings as well as his negatives ones and behaviours. Trouble with doing so here though, is that anyone who is seen to be saying anything postive about MAJ invites scorn and trouble for himself. Or is likely to anyway. I should have made up a name of my own I know, but new people here are also often looked upon with suspicion, specially if they mention MAJ. I really am sorry to have upset you though. It won’t happen again. I promise. I’ve said what I needed to say anyway. But I’m sorry to have stolen your identity. It was wrong of me.

January 30, 2006 @ 5:43 am | Comment

happy chinese new year to you all!

January 30, 2006 @ 5:57 am | Comment

Oh dear! MAJ must be lurking here though, cause he seems to have read my earlier comment where I say I hope he doesn’t post uncropped porn shots of himself with his girl. Cause guess what I just saw on his freewebs site. Yup! Unbelievable!

January 30, 2006 @ 6:10 am | Comment

FAKE Sojourner, Kurtz (Heart of Darkness) was known for eloquent speech, he also was an enigma.

January 30, 2006 @ 6:35 am | Comment

Other Lisa,

I may have to trouble you to exercise your moderator’s muscle and clean up the place a bit. A nasty skunk has just walked in and left some disguisting foul-smell behind.

January 30, 2006 @ 6:44 am | Comment

Trouble with doing so here though, is that anyone who is seen to be saying anything postive about MAJ invites scorn and trouble for himself.

Not half as much scorn as anyone will invoke for masquerading as someone else, for whatever reason!

.

January 30, 2006 @ 6:47 am | Comment

As I started scrolling down “Sojourner’s” comments where he began to cite long quotes from his own blog – which is absolutely against Richard’s policy here – I realised the creeep is back.

So, two things: First, a head’s up to Lisa to delete all of his comments and ban his IP.

And second, may I remind EVERYONE here to go right now to read Richard’s old thread, “Mark Anthony Jones, the Fantabulist”, which you can simply click on in the left hand column here under “The Emperor’s Jewels”

January 30, 2006 @ 7:21 am | Comment

Another reason why it’s obvious that the above “Sojourner” is Madge: Because he has read Madge’s unreadable shit at length, and nobody except Madge would have the stomach for that.

January 30, 2006 @ 7:27 am | Comment

Has ˆÂ–€“û been banned? It has been down for two days (at least where I am).

January 30, 2006 @ 7:53 am | Comment

I feel dirty and violated by what MAJ has done.

I was a little more indulgent about his pathological fantasising than were others.

But it’s one thing to to create personas, and it’s another to take someone else’s moniker in order to promote one’s own sad site.

MAJ, you are one sad sorry muther-f*ker.

January 30, 2006 @ 8:18 am | Comment

Soujourner,

I sent Lisa a head’s up about this. She’s on Pacific American time, so she probably won’t get to it for a few hours, but I’m sure she’ll clean up this thread, and then we’ll take further measures to keep it clean.

MEANWHILE, if you want to lighten up and have a laugh about MAJ, you can visit the OTHER Madge site, at:

flowingwaters.blog.com

That site tends to get more active whenever MAJ comes around here to cause disruption and harm to others.

January 30, 2006 @ 8:39 am | Comment

Cheers, Ivan.

Actually, I not only know the “Flowing Waters Stale” site, I was one of the more recent contributors (e.g., the Alice Through the Looking Glass pastiche). 🙂

January 30, 2006 @ 8:44 am | Comment

A couple of things.

I don’t know whether the comments alluded to above were from Madge or not. I am going to ask, however, that we not quote from his blog on my site or even bring up his name. It’s a dangerous topic and one that affects my personal and professional life. If you read my last long comment in the Fantabulist thread you will see what I mean. I appreciate that he deleted his latest posts about me from China Daily, and want to leave it at that. There is nothing healthy to be derived from quoting him here or alluding to him. So please, keep these comments Madge-free.

About the NY Times and Fox News. With all respect, FSN9, you really don’t know what you’re talking about here. I worked for the Times in the 80s, pre-Internet of course. I know it better than anyone else here. It is not a “liberal” newspaper. It is an Establishment newspaper that reflects its readership like most newspapers. That readership is well-educated, moderate-liberal and upper-middle class. No newspaper played a larger role in pushing for the invasion of Iraq than the NYT. Its top reporters Elisabeth Bumiller and Judy Miller are notorious for swallowing the White House talking points and regurgitating them on cue. They have liberal columnists (Herbert, Krugman, Rich), conservative (Safire, Tierney and Brfooks) and moderate (Dowd, Friedman and Kristof). Dowd was the loudest critic of Clinton in the 90s and was deafeningly shrill on the Monica issue. She is as hard on Bush as she was on Bill. You can point to Times articles that appear liberal or conservative, but it is by no means leftist. The Times frequently endorses Republican candidates and gives Republicans plenty of op-ed space. Those are facts.

Fox News is in no way conservative. It is Republican, and that is where there is literally no other mass media like it. It expresses open contempt for Democrats and is so biased in favor of the GOP that it’s embarrassing. I have posted examples time and again here; their “analysts” Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin and Dick Morris are all GOP drumbeaters, populist shit-stirrers and liars. Their counterparsts on the left like Michael Moore enjoy no similar news media that would allow them a platform to spread their poison. Fox is unique in this respect. Krugman is a liberal, for sure, but he is a qualified economist and makes his arguments rationally, even if we feel he is wrong. Just like David Brooks; he is, in my view, nearly always wrong, but like Krugman he is at lest responsible and rational. Nearly all the Fox pundits are irrational and extreme – Oliver North, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, etc. No other TV news service has a similarly stacked deck on the liberal side. Not even close. No other station launches inane crusades to compare to O’Reilly’s (like the “War on Christmas” bullshit). No other mass media is so partisan and irresponsible. None. Fox works in unison with Drudge, Malkin and Limbaugh to create a wall of Republican noise that has nothing to do with conservatism, and everything to do with pushing GOP talking points. If you want to compare the NYT, you had better be prepared to offer links and quotes. The war cry that the Times is leftist is pure nonsense, based on emotion and anecdotal evidence. As I said, you can find examples of liberal and conservative bias in the Times. In Fox, there is no such balance. To question Bush is not liberalism. Smart conservatives like George Will and Andrew Sullivan do it all the time, as does John Cole of Balloon Juice. Sadly, tragically, the Fox cabal (incl. Malkin and Rush) tar every dissenting voice as a traitorous one. It is fashioned in the mold of the best fascist propaganda instrument, and I can only marvel at its efficiency. And at its blatant, shameless deceitfulness and willingness to promote lies. There is no precedent and no comparison. Again, if you compare it to the Times, do so with links and quotes. This topic is a hot button for me, like when apologists praise the CCP blindly. I won’t tolerate ignorance like that. Be ready to argue your case and I’ll be all ears. Regurgitate blanket, mindless slogans and I’ll be very pissed.

Happy New Year to everyone.

January 30, 2006 @ 9:04 am | Comment

Richard,

No one is quoting from his site but himself. The only reason I mentioned him is because he was such a bloody insect to post under my handle.

As for your dissection of the NYT versus Fox … spot on.

January 30, 2006 @ 9:11 am | Comment

Oh, and …

KUNG HAI FAT CHOI to everyone!

January 30, 2006 @ 9:12 am | Comment

Sojourner, fully understood. Happy New Year.

January 30, 2006 @ 9:19 am | Comment

Ditto what Sojourner said. And Richard, with all respect, I’d like to point out that the only way to keep this thread “Madge-Free” will be to delete the above comments which quote at length from his own site.

Meanwhile, a hug for you on your safe arrival in America.

January 30, 2006 @ 9:20 am | Comment

Ivan, I know what you mean, but I’ll leave it as proof of what I have to deal with every day when I read the comments. If I delete it now, a lot of following comments will make no sense, and at least there’s no slander in what he wrote.

There really is no place like home, by the way. I love living in Asia, but I wish I could put into words just how comforting it is to lie down on your own bed in your own house,with the people and cats you love within reach….

January 30, 2006 @ 9:27 am | Comment

By the way Richard, if you want to give this thread a really thorough scrub and ALSO delete any of MY references to the insect, go ahead – I’d be happy to see that, actually.

January 30, 2006 @ 9:33 am | Comment

oops, sorry, cross-posted with your last comment Richard. Never mind.

Oh and yeah, I know what you mean about returning home after a long time abroad. (I get the same feeling in the UK and America equally, whenever I come back from wherever – although even Russia is more like home to me that China ever was) – and that’s actually one reason why I avoid doing it too much, lest I be tempted to stay at “home” forever….

January 30, 2006 @ 9:36 am | Comment

*yawn* – just settled down to my computer with a cup of coffee, got a cat on my lap, and…

What the heck?!

But I guess I’m leaving it alone….

January 30, 2006 @ 10:08 am | Comment

Hey Guys,

Can you recommend a good periodical business/news publication (weekly/monthly) that aids in learning Chinese, with Pinyin?

My chinese is decent for conversation but I can’t say stuff like “business process transformation” 🙂

Thanks

Ed

January 30, 2006 @ 11:44 am | Comment

Btw… regular stolichnaya is 100 a bottle. Imperator, the “premium” vodka (which I bought to show off to my colleagues) tastes much smoother and is five times as expensive. You can find it in the black labeled thin-necked bottles.

As for vanilla extract, I bought that in a Hualian supermarket 3 clicks down the street from my apartment.

January 31, 2006 @ 10:52 am | Comment

t_co, I was wondering if that was what it was, so you bought expensive vodka for your ice-cream for “face”. Fair enough. But how did you manage to spend 300rmb on the Kahlua? Do they make an expensive version of that as well?

February 1, 2006 @ 12:19 am | Comment

I’m having a brain fart. What’s the Chinese term for the 12 animal signs of the zodiac?

February 1, 2006 @ 1:03 am | Comment

t_co, you found vanilla extract at HuaLian? Wow, I can’t even find it at expensive markets that sell imported food! I will definitely check the nearest Hualian, thanks! 🙂

February 1, 2006 @ 4:23 am | Comment

Other Lisa, it’s the same term as applies to the western zodiac: “hooey”.

You can use that one for fengshui, too. 😉

February 1, 2006 @ 4:28 am | Comment

Best bottle of vodka I ever had was simply labelled, “Vodka” in a plain green bottle. (Old leftover from Soviet times, which my Russian landlady gave me.)
Second best: A brand called, “HaHaHa”, one dollar for a litre. (Didn’t drink it, but it was good for bribing workmen.)

February 1, 2006 @ 9:53 am | Comment

And on that note, I think it’s time for a new thread.

February 1, 2006 @ 10:26 am | Comment

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