Angry Japanese Bloggers

An interesting look at the rage Japanese bloggers are aiming at Korea and China. It was especially interesting to see how many of the most popular Japanese blogs are devoted to blasting Korea and China.

Apparently blind rage isn’t unique to China.

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Richard Burger is the author of Behind the Red Door: Sex in China, an exploration of China's sexual revolution and its clash with traditional Chinese values.

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The Discussion: 75 Comments

Richard, don’t start me offf that chicken-egg thing. Japanese moved those class I war criminals into the shrine around 1980, Without knowing it, chinese were loving Japanese to death at the same time. There was no such thing called Japanese hatred in China back then.
My grandpa and grandma, who were a reporter and a student, fighting against Japanese back in 1940’s, bought a SONY black-white TV and thought Japanese and Chinese would be friends forever since then.

July 31, 2005 @ 2:16 pm | Comment

lin,

OK. I will refer to your view on how the deterioration developed in my blog. Though small audience, your voice will be heard by some Japanese.

July 31, 2005 @ 4:12 pm | Comment

Laowai,

>ironically it’s not the young ones that get over it

I’m not sure if I got what you are trying to say, but let me start with this question.
Who do you suggest should get over with the past?

July 31, 2005 @ 4:23 pm | Comment

Bingfeng,

>the anti-japan sentiment was fueled by
>the repetitive denial of war crimes by
>current japanese politicians and many
>right-wing japanese.

As I said it is a matter of how you classify and organize information. Besides you are still referring to the past. What about apology and compensation?

I am sure that you can raise a present issue that does not require you to make reference to events in history. So move on. That is good for the Chinese and good for everybody.

The point is to move forward. You are not a victim. You don’t have a reason to be angry, though you may be concerned about the right wingers in Japan.

July 31, 2005 @ 4:46 pm | Comment

bingfeng,

>the repetitive denial of war crimes by
>current japanese politicians and many
>right-wing japanese.

Which one? Specify. I’ll look into it for deatils.

July 31, 2005 @ 4:54 pm | Comment

Move on doesn’t mean forget and deny.

Tell Germans and their chancellor to move on and never do self-sadistic gestures any more.

July 31, 2005 @ 4:55 pm | Comment

No Souden japan, you don’t get what I’m trying to say. Try reading it again. I’m saying that young people are entrenching themselves in the hate all the more, simply because they were not there, and do not have the perspective of what an awful thing rabid aggression and nationalism can be.

July 31, 2005 @ 5:11 pm | Comment

Self-sadistic = masochistic.

Anyway, I’m with Bing in that the Japanese right-wing are totally off the wall. It’s like the White supremecists that deny that the Holocaust happened. Total bs.

July 31, 2005 @ 5:13 pm | Comment

Bing,

>Move on doesn’t mean forget and deny

I don’t have time right now. Just quick resopnse. What does “moving on” mean?

Germans do things as they wish to do. I don’t think that the Japanese has anything to do with German way. My concern is, from objective point of view, it appears to be only Chinese and Koreans who have not overcome WW II in the world. I’m simply saying that it is high time no matter what.

July 31, 2005 @ 8:19 pm | Comment

Soudenjapan,
I would I could read Japanese….

July 31, 2005 @ 10:52 pm | Comment

“Self-sadistic = masochistic.”

I was looking for the word masochist.

Thanks.

August 1, 2005 @ 2:09 am | Comment

“Germans do things as they wish to do. I don’t think that the Japanese has anything to do with German way.”

That’s fair. So Japnese don’t expect China and Korea to react the same as those countries that forgive Germany.

“My concern is, from objective point of view, it appears to be only Chinese and Koreans who have not overcome WW II in the world. I’m simply saying that it is high time no matter what.”

What a surprise to me you have a concern like this.

In fact, I shouldn’t have been surprised. That exactly reflects the ignorance and denial of most Japanese.

August 1, 2005 @ 2:16 am | Comment

Bing,

>Japnese don’t expect China and Korea to
>react the same as those countries that
>forgive Germany.

Personally I’ve never made that comparison. I just believe that only the Chinese and Koreans appear to be left behind.

You may say that it is Japan’s falt. But I feel that the rest of the world are unanimously becoming less and less supportive to the Chinese and Korean claim, whereas Japan’s contribution to the peace and welfare of the world in the last 60 years are more and more regarded highly these days. In fact most of the countries in the world believe that Japan should be part of the U.N. Security Council.

Game over. As long as China keeps dictatorship, she is bound to be the bad guy. As a dictatorship grows more and more influential, the rest of the world will take sides more and more with Japan, Australlia, and the U.S. in this region.

That is a Chinese dilemma. Thus, I am not concerned about growing China.

August 1, 2005 @ 4:01 am | Comment

richard,

>It’s interesting to see the dynamics of the
>young Chinese and Japanese. They feed
>on each other, intensifying the hatred
>through their rhetoric.

My impression is that some young Japanese hate the Koreans and Chinese due to their belief that facts and evidence are fabricated in China and Korea in order to gain appology and money from Japan time and time again.

In China, for instance, the total number of Chinese war dead has been increased from several million to twenty to thirty million without proof. The Chinese official record says that 300, 000 people were killed in Nanking, without valid proof, whose population was only 200,000 at the time of the battle of Nanking.

Another example is Iris Chung who by now is very famous amongst the Japanese and scholars for her dilibarate inclusion of many composit photographs in her best seller book.

The Japanes youth are appeared to be saying that let’s talk on a factual basis, not hearsay and rumors. But the numbers just keep going up in China. They resent that. That is my personal impression.

August 1, 2005 @ 5:30 am | Comment

richard,

Correction. The Chinese government now says that 40 million Chinese were kill by the Japanese. Last year the figure was 35 million.

August 1, 2005 @ 5:45 am | Comment

“Game over. As long as China keeps dictatorship, she is bound to be the bad guy. As a dictatorship grows more and more influential, the rest of the world will take sides more and more with Japan, Australlia, and the U.S. in this region.”

We’ll see.

You just wish China would never archieve democracy because that’s the last thing China lacks to regain its historical dominance in Asia.

Democratic China vs aging and insular Japan. Sorry mate, you are doomed.

August 1, 2005 @ 7:05 am | Comment

Bing, I don’t think anyone in Japan wants China to remain a dictatorship. Give people some credit! Japan has already demonstrated that it gives a lot to humanitarian relief and humane causes. Wanting China to stay a dictatorship would be rather contrary to this.

August 1, 2005 @ 12:54 pm | Comment

Laowai

Most Japanese don’t care what China is gonna be, which is completely understandable and no one can blame them for that.

However, say “no one in Japan wants China to remain a dictatorship” is too absolute.

For long term prosperity, dictatorship will do no good. Of course there are people in Japan that don’t want China to become stronger would love China to remain dictatorship.

August 1, 2005 @ 2:04 pm | Comment

It’s about time, this is called standing up for yourself and your country.

This has been the norm in China, Korea and the US for decades, now Japan is finding a voice. Maybe soon the politicians will find one too.

August 2, 2005 @ 4:26 am | Comment

Bing,

>that’s the last thing China lacks to regain
> its historical dominance in Asia.

Is that your “dream come true”? No such a thing, Bing.

Even if the dominance should occur, China herself would be under dominance by someone else like Europeans, Americans, no Russians this time around but maybe Indians instead, and, to a modest extent, by Japanese.

That is why we all should cooperate, Bing, in a forward looking manner, not backward.

August 2, 2005 @ 5:22 am | Comment

soudenjapan

are you a japanese? if no, i’d better stop arguing on this matter.

August 2, 2005 @ 8:09 am | Comment

Yes, I am Japanese. But it doesn’t really matter, because I’m speaking in terms of what’s good for everybody, Chinese, Japanese, and people around the world.

The point is that real players in China’s economic development are primarily foreigners unlike Japan and other advanced countries when they were rapidly growing.

August 2, 2005 @ 9:58 am | Comment

What is good for everybody is not what your government really wants.

It’s Japan that keeps puhsing China to maintain its dominance in Asia and archieve military independence from US.

Of course, no one can be blamed for fighting for the best. I don’t blame Japan for that either. Just want to point out it’s not China who doesn’t want to play peace with Japan.

It’s not just about the visit of war shrine, legacy of comfort women, chemical and biological warfare and history textbook, it’s Taiwan, DiaoyuDao, east China sea and oil pipe. Japan is actually pouncing on all these issues to provoke China.

Yes, I said provocation, and all these issues smack of a deliberate strategy rather than a set of discrete incidents.

The CCP government is quite powerless facing such a combination punch. All it can do often is “strongly oppose” and recently “launch a students campaign”.

Unlike Korea, public discussion of Japan related sensitive topics like DiaoYuDao in China is forbidden, because the CCP knows there is nothing they dare do. The government just hopes to keep the status quo.

Yes, status quo. The current CCP government dreams of a status quo to allow time for ecnomic development.

But that’s not the case for your government. A normal country means military independence. The existence of a powerful military force requires an enemy. Remeber what Rumsfeld said. Why keep such an army without being threatened by any other country?

For Japan, nothing is easier than making up an enemy out of China.

The Japanese government probably thinks this is a war that Japan has little to lose.

However, you never know.

Really, sometimes you just don’t know.

“The Japanese expected a swift victory to conquer Shanghai in three days and China in three months.”

August 2, 2005 @ 2:51 pm | Comment

Bing,

You can talk about the chicken-egg type of action, reaction, and counteraction, but after all said and done, it ends up with communism and dictatorship. That is where every conflict has its root. That a dictatorship is growing means that danger is mounting for other good guys.

By the way you are getting comments from my audience. Not that sweet comments for you but you are surely attracting their attention.

August 2, 2005 @ 6:11 pm | Comment

The following are comments left by some Japanese audience for bingfeng, lin, and Bing on my website.

●Yasukuni Shurine

1. The spirits of both Class B and Class C War Criminals had been part of Yasukuni Shurine long before the spirits of Class A Criminals were included. Why do you think that only Class A’s are so special?

2. Separation of church and state. Yasukuni Shurine decided to include the spirits of Class A War Criminals. The Japanese government has nothing to do with it. What do you think about that?

3. Visiting Yasukuni Shurine doesn’t mean to praise and approve militalism.

4. China has no say in Japanese religion on how they handle spirt of the dead.

●Nanking Massacre

5. Conflicting testimonies by Mr. Shiro Azuma and his superior officer. Which testimony do you believe and why?

●China Now

6. To what extent do Chinese people have trust in Chinese media and education given by CCP? And why?

7. How do Chinese people treat the war-dead in China?

8. The Chinese appear to be overconfident now.

9. How do the Chinese deal with their own crimes in Vietnam, Uyghur, Tibet, Falun Gong?

10. Jiang Zemin started anti-Japan education in China. Today’s anti-Japanese movement in China is a result of the edcation.

11. China should enact a constitutinal artcle like Japan’s Article 9. That way China and Japan can engage in armament reduction.

●Revisionism

12. What the Japanese are doing is not really revisionism. They studied more histroy and then they corrected their views. It is not like revisionism or the revival of militarism in Japan.

13. The general public has better access to more accurate information on historical events by means of the Internet. It is not revisionism.

August 3, 2005 @ 5:00 am | Comment

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