Did OJ Simpson kill Nicole Brown Simpson?

It’s the 10-year anniversary of the murders of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman and needless to say the airwaves are jammed with stories about “the trial of the century.”

I watched all the usual suspects on Larry King last night — Goldman’s father and sister, Lt. Vanatter, LA detective Lange, Nicole’s sister — telling all the usual stories about what a circus the trial was and how poorly Judge Ito and Marcia Clark handled things, what a theatrical grandstander Johnny Cochrane was, how Clark didn’t let the jurors see the most damning evidence, how Cochrane shamelessly played the race card, etc., etc., etc., etc.

Let me say right up front that I tend to believe all of these things. We all do. It is simply a matter of fact that OJ Simpson murdered Ron and Nicole — or at least it is a matter of fact that this is what we all believe. There was no one on King’s cozy little panel, or on any of the other rehash shows on TV I’ve seen, who stand up for OJ and say he was innocent.

This is exactly why you should take a look at Joseph Bosco’s article on this subject. His conclusions are diametrically opposed to those we’ve been fed by the media and the victims’ families. It’s a long piece with lots of names you’ve never heard before, and it isn’t always easy reading. But Joseph does have unique credentials to tell this story: he was one of the tiny handful of journalists selected to sit in the courthouse and cover the story every day. He has met and interviewed all of the characters. And he has a long history of forensic journalism.

I admit, I am not convinced by Joseph’s argument becuase I don’t yet understand it well enough. After “knowing” that OJ did it for 10 years, it is very hard to re-adjust your thought patterns even to entertain the possibility that this might not be so. And I haven’t done it yet. But if what Joseph is saying is true, we may be forced to do exactly that, because this case may not be over yet.

Joseph has a lot of courage to come out with a story that flies in the face of everything we know and believe. Some critics have slammed his book on the trial (A Problem of Evidence), claiming the Cochrane crowd hijacked him and managed to convince him their BS story was true. (Knowing Joseph personally, I find this just about impossible to swallow.)

[UPDATE: See Joseph's comment below for clarification of his book's conclusions.]

Not having read Joseph’s book yet, I have to say I’m in a holding pattern right now, still believing that OJ did it, but willing to listen if new evidence surfaces to show otherwise. But before you start insisting that everything the Larry King panelists say is true (as I tend to do), keep an open mind and see what Joseph has to say in his article. I was definitely surprised.

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The Discussion: 278 Comments

After reading the article, I didn’t necessarily come to the conclusion that OJ didn’t do it - just that people were consipiring to kill his ex-wife long before the event actually happened. This possibly includes OJ himself, and if not, then definately people he seemed closely associated with. And even if he didn’t personally commit the murder, if he “merely” hired someone else to do it, it still leaves him pretty guilty.

Even more interesting (and possibly taking first steps down a slippery slope), is that if the case were ever to be taken further with possibly another trial against OJ, double jeopardy *wouldn’t* apply as it would be on charges like conspiring to commit murder etc, and double jeopardy only prevents him being retried for the actual murders themselves.

A very interesting read nonetheless.

June 21, 2004 @ 5:36 am | Comment

Dear Richard,

I truly appreciate your kind words directing readers to my post “The Man Who Didn’t Kill Nicole Brown Simpson,” however, I need to offer a slight adjustment: Neither in my book A PROBLEM OF EVIDENCE, nor in the article (which was written on assignment to Time Magazine) have I ever said that O.J. Simpson was “innocent” of murder. In my book, I tried to do what all of my other colleagues in the Simpson press corps during those years refused to do: Explain WHY the criminal jury came back with the “Not Guilty Verdict” that so shocked white America. Hearing THAT presentation of the case, no other honest jury could have come back with a “Guilty” verdict: The only suspense for those of us who truly understood the case was between a “Not Guilty” verdict or a hung jury.

Aside from that, in my book and in all of my work on the case since then, I have simply explained the virtual impossibility of there being only one “knife man.” The forensic evidence strongly supports O. J. being on the scene at Bundy, BUT HE DID NOT STAB ANYONE.

What the article demonstrates is that there was a criminal enterprise which O.J. and Kardashian had long been involved with that decided Nicole had to go because she had become very loose of lip. An attempt to do this was the “Wasz Story.” This happened; Tom Lange and Phil Vannatter knew it and wanted to follow up on it but Marcia shot it down. Tom Lange made certain that I would follow up on it and I did so for several years with the help of the LAPD and The Los Angeles District Attorney’s Office.

The reason the LAPD is still saying the case is open is because of my work with Bill Wasz.

Also, the commenter, inron, is dead on the money: O.J. CAN be tried for conspiracy to commit murder without a double jeopardy problem, as can others, and there were definitely others on scene during the murders.

This is getting way too long. Perhaps I should take it back to my site, if I can get it working properly again!

Thanks, again, my friend.

June 21, 2004 @ 6:35 am | Comment

I agree with Bosco and Inron.

The article definitely shows that it’s not an open and shut case, and hopefully Mr. Bosco can keep it open a bit longer.

June 21, 2004 @ 7:28 am | Comment

Thanks for the comments, and my apologies for not clarifying the key point — that Joseph’s assertion is that OJ did not wield the knife and that there could not have been, as Joseph say, “only one ‘knife man.’”

Joseph, I hope you can keep us all posted on this, and if you are still having problems with Blogger you can guest-post here anytime.

June 21, 2004 @ 8:48 am | Comment

well personally, I agree with what iMron had to say ;-) Don’t care much for this iNron guy at all.

June 21, 2004 @ 5:30 pm | Comment

What about Gephard?

June 21, 2004 @ 7:56 pm | Comment

I’ll buy that for a dollar. I have no trouble believing he’s “Charlie Manson guilty” and not ‘held the shiv himself’ guilty.

June 21, 2004 @ 9:05 pm | Comment

forget OJ, what about MJ.

His trial will be twice the circus OJ’s was simply because he’s wierd and we simultantaniouly believe that he’s capable of anything, and yet believe that is the most innocent figure on television.

Would you let OJ sleep in the same bed as your children?

June 21, 2004 @ 11:04 pm | Comment

Enemablog

Setting modesty aside, this week’s biggest blogosphere news was my own: the establishment of the New Blog Showcase blog. The entries are already rolling in and the support has been great. In particular Dean, Harvey, Madfish, Kevin, Misha, Dagoddess, Il…

June 25, 2004 @ 12:36 am | Comment

imron,

Please forgive my mangling of your handle. It was an error, not a statement of any kind.

Joseph

June 27, 2004 @ 10:02 am | Comment

I spent countless hours with Joseph Bosco and led toward the road of truth. The truth, however, remained/remains buried in a pit of political/financial agendas, something all the parties involved in that case had; finding the truth was about as sublime as they made me out to be.

I spent over ten years in a concrete box; I beld on many occasssions; I struglled with how mankind can treat their own worse than animals.

So when people came to me for the truth, I relayed it. But it proved to be futile, for no one is ever held accountable. Especially if they held any type of authority. So the truth will forever be buried.

Me? Well, after all those years in a box, I can finally breathe the air as a free man. And the truth will always remain with me. Problem is; no matter how many times the authorities are caught lying and covering-up, people still are eager to believe whatever they say. And they will probably forever say I’m “not to be believed”. But keep in mind: I gave them accurate, factual information… never one lie.

And they repaid me how????

They called me names, tarnished my integrity, and place me in situations where I was almost killed.

But…. I will live on.

And the truth???

It lives within me.

-Bill Wasz

September 6, 2004 @ 2:00 pm | Comment

Oh, by the way…. “hello” Joe.

September 6, 2004 @ 2:01 pm | Comment

Richard,

Thanks, Bill also e-mailed me. How can I explain that this is one of a handful of truly great days and moments in a life now 56 years long. Simply put: Bill is alive! He is safe! And he is FREE!

Very few people on this Earth know me as well as William Benson Wasz–perhaps only my first wife.

From 1997 until shortly before arriving in China on August 21, 2002, most of my life and work went towards two paramount tasks: 1) Keeping Bill alive in the maximum security “Gulags” that are the California Prison system; and 2) Getting his truth told to a world that does not want truth if it is contrary to what they have already decided must be “true.”

At this moment all I can feel is overwhelming joy that he is FREE and alive! Vindication can wait. My weekly four-hour (one way) drives deep into the desert to visit him was helpful towards keeping him alive. It is somewhat problematic for prison guards to kill an inmate that is receiving so much personal attention from a journalist they recognize from TV.

But the real praise is for Bill himself: in the end he won because he was smarter, stronger, and physically tougher than anything or anyone they sent against him.

Bill Wasz, in short, became one of the closest friends I have in this world. Now that he is free and working with major media folks, the world will come to know why a mainstream journalist such as myself risked his career and reputation for someone they believed was just a coked-up armed robber. Bill Wasz has more integrity and honesty in one of his huge fists (he is 6′5″) than most of his detractors have combined in their small brains. Did it hurt my career and my financial security? Absolutely. Would I do it all over again? Absolutely!

Bill is FREE! I have not been this happy in more years than I can count. Forgive me for rambling. I will post this story very soon. Right now I am simply savoring the rush that comes with knowing he is finally free and safe!

All the best,

Joseph

September 6, 2004 @ 11:41 pm | Comment

If OJ didn’t do it, who did.

I’ve heard gossip that said he was putting himself in the picture to draw fire from somebody else, I can’t remember who though, possibly his son/step son.

I have know Idea if he did it or not but I would like to know why there are no big name invesgative journalists trying to find out ‘if no OJ, then who’.

This trial has either shown that the American justice system is capable of protecting a black man from a white lynch mob, or it has shown that money and status can sway the courts.

September 8, 2004 @ 3:17 am | Comment

I can’t believe that this son of a bitch OJ is out there after doing that inhuman insane act of murdering his ex girl friend and another man.

Why is America idle to it? If you ask me i’ll first order the defense team the so called “dream team” to be prosecuted for turning the case as a case for racism.

I am sick to my stomach to know that there’s clear cut evidence leading OJ to this murder and this good for nothing prosecution team let him go. It is like a video of OJ murdering the two.

We must organise a protest against this . Think of Nicole and the innocent man who were killed. How could America let that Criminal OJ free!!!!

Let Justice be done

I hope to see this SOB dead!!!!

October 3, 2004 @ 7:47 pm | Comment

Dear Joseph Bosco,

I really appreciate the flattering (sometimes unwarranted) comments you’ve posted about me.

We all paid a price for a violent act which probably lasted less than five minutes. You gave a part of your soul…. and I…. gave a chunk of my life for eternity.

People learn of my past and are afraid of me. Women don’t like me walking behind them. Why? I’ve never hurt an innocnet person in my life. But yet, I have to live with this stigma forever.

I’ve only been out for two months… and I’m tired. I love life. I love people. But I think people don’t love me because of this.

I don’t know where my life is going to take me, but I can say I sort of know I won’t be around for much longer. I’m at peace with that. I just want to be liked.

Everyone pretends to like me because they fear me. Ironically, I’m one of nicest, faithful people anyone will meet.

I don’t want trouble. I want to be happy.

Just like all of you.

I don’t know what to do.

Bill Wasz

October 7, 2004 @ 1:14 am | Comment

What I meant by my last posting is that I don’t believe my freedom is my own. That’s all I meant.

When you have to live under the dark cloud of O.J., you’ll always feel like certain people don’t want to see you free. So it is my freedom that I believe is forever in jeopardy. And it’s not a good feeling, I assure you.

All else is fine. People will be people, if they can’t accept me for who I am, than I shall look for other people who will. No big deal.

Please don’t take my prior posting out of context.

Thank you.

Bill Wasz

October 7, 2004 @ 11:07 am | Comment

Thanks for clarifying, Bill. You sound like a special guy. Hang in there, and don’t forget that a lot of people love you. And ultimately, that’s all that matters.

October 7, 2004 @ 11:33 am | Comment

Richard,

Thank you for introducing me to this board. I’ve been using Joe Bosco’s A Problem of Evidence as a reference source since I bought it in 1997. I’ve tried unsuccessfully to get in touch with him in regard to two key issues.

My first question has to do with his statement in A Problem of Evidence that Denise Brown said she saw O.J. wearing Bruno Magli Lorenzos. I’ve done a considerable amount of research on the killer’s shoes and the photos supposedly “proving” that O.J. lied when he said he never owned them. If you follow all of the available evidence I’m certain you will discover that O.J. told the truth. The photos were faked. Which means Denise was either mistaken about seeing them on O.J.’s feet or she lied. I need to know where and when she said she saw O.J. wearing them.

Secondly, I followed every scrap of information I could get my hands on regarding William Wasz, including Joe Bosco’s article about him, Nicole, Kardashian and O.J. I did not come to the same conclusion that Mr. Bosco did, based on the evidence and statements that Mr. Wasz showed him. Yes, Wasz and Kardashian were in the same bar at the same time but I see no evidence that they spoke to each other and no reason for Kardashian to do so in a public place. I also found one source for Kardashian’s private phone number other than Kardashian that bears investigation. I’m talking about his former wife Kris. If she had the number, anyone could have had it. Furthermore, we know that Wasz called Kardashian’s home but we don’t know who picked up the phone.

Wasz’s story about O.J. going out to the street to complain about the price of cocaine sounds too much like the story that Mark Fuhrman told about O.J. and the baseball bat incident of ’84 (not ’85) to stand on its own. It’s difficult to find that picture of O.J. anywhere that doesn’t have a strong link to Faye Resnick or Mark Fuhrman. It also sounds a lot like the story Nicole’s cousin Rolf told DA investigators about an incident that happened inside of O.J.’s house when Rolf worked on the estate as a groundskeeper in the mid ’80s. Both stories were public record by the time Wasz told his story.

Obviously, there is much more to my take on William Wasz and a conspiracy between O.J. and Kardashian to kill Nicole than I can relate here. The bottom line is, I don’t believe it, nor do I believe that there was any valid forensic evidence placing O.J. on the scene. I was surprised to see in A Problem of Evidence that Joe Bosco (whom I admire greatly) missed it. But he did. – Jasper

October 15, 2004 @ 11:34 am | Comment

I’m not an authority on the case, but hopefully Joseph or someone else with greater knowledge will comment on it here. I appreciate your comment.

October 15, 2004 @ 11:49 am | Comment

If OJ didn’t do it, then who?

Kaelin, that’s who.

One man could have done the murders if each victim was taken by surprise one at a time. Joe Bosco is wrong.

Also, the only evidence that OJ was present t the crime scene were the five blood droplets with OJ;sa DNA in htem.

BUTG….all these prove is that OJ’s blood was there, not that OJ was.

Now, if you want to use those blood drops aas eivdence against OJ, then you are obligated to explain ALL the qualities of the blood drops, which include:

*dropped from a stationary source
*from less than two feet above the walk
Are diluted in their concentration of DNA by a factor of 100 compared the the a ount of DNA one would expect to find in drops of that type.
and
*THEY DID NOT NOT NOT LINE UP WITH THE BLOODY FOOTPRINTS.

fOR FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ABOVE POINTS, SEE MY WEB PAGE AT:

http://WWW.ANGELFRIE.COM/EXTREME3/OJISINNOCENT/INDEX.HTML

October 15, 2004 @ 1:51 pm | Comment

OK. My name is Mario g. Nitrini 111, I met with Joseph Bosco twice…..Hi Joe. Let’’s get something straight right now, I FEAR NOTHING…..Some of the people in “iago in brentwood called me scared to death …..Again, I FEAR NOTHING and I am not incoherent…….William Wasz, You are 100 per cent correct, you gotta hang in there……My ex-in-law ROCKY BATEMAN with whom I ran with in the early 1990’s, was OJ SIMPSON,S regular LIMO DRIVER from Aug of 1993 to June of 1994…Rocky BATEMAN unloaded the MISSING BAG OF OJ’S and that’s not the only thing HE UNLOADED in the O.J. Simpson case…… I gave SCUM CORRUPT CRIMINAL detective RONALD Y. ITO of the Robbery Homicide division at Parker Center an incredible amount of information, both pro and con for OJ Simpson, and he illegally supressed all of it from the defense
in the case. Many Many other peole know about the supressed information I gave to SCUM detective RONALD Y. ITO. Later On, on Oct. 4 1995 he was the
ringleader in a Murder for Hire plot on my life along with many other people in a major conspiracy because of the not guilty verdict…..and they kept trying to ILLEGALLY destroy me anyway they could in many illegal ways and they keep trying even to this day….I’m Still Here…….Also SCUM Detective Ronald Y. Ito is the LEAD detective in the ROBERT BLAKE case, and I gaurentee you, the STATE of CALIF. is holding it’s breath concerning me,GAURENTEED. I will tell everyone who wants to listen…I, Mario G. Nitrini am the most Hated and LEGALLY feared man in the OJ Simpson case….Richard of the Peking Duck, I like your demeanor….All people in the Peking Duck, Keep up the good work…. Jasper Garrison, I have read a lot of the posts on your website, you and your people have come up with some pretty INCREDIBLE good evidence…..again Let us get this straight…I FEAR NOTHING, and no need to talk bad about me…..Joseph bosco, I don’t like the way you played me. I would like to know why? No hard feelings, Call me, you have my phone #, and I will call you back in China….Anyone wants to meet me face to face in a legal dicussion , Anytime,Anywhere. Most people are afraid to…. There are situations with people and gov’t agencies in the Michael Jackson case which I have with people connected to the OJ Simpson case…..That will come at another time, Mr Bath Bear,very sick Racist pig people and situations and several other situations and people connected to the OJ Simpson case. It has been an INCREDIBLE ILLEGAL CRIMINAL COVER-UP….. I live in Reseda, Calif. in the San Fernando Valley You want my address and Phone # I will give it to you although MOST people in the OJ Simpson case already have it..I had an article in the LA TIMES in Bill Boyarsky’s column on June 23, 1995 just for anyones information…. I Will get LEGAL JUSTICE for myself, GAURENTEED. good-bye for now ……… Mario G. Nitrini 111……. Your a good man William Wasz

October 15, 2004 @ 9:18 pm | Comment

Jasper,

I am quite easy to find. The link below is my weblog, The LongBow Papers. There is an e-mail address on the site. Also, just a few weeks ago I sent you an e-mail to the address on your website and received no reply. It was the frst time I had done so over the years, although I have been reading your work with interest from the beginning: it is a peculiar bemusement to read people talking about me and my work as if I am an entity not a human being.

There is one very big issue upon which we agree, albeit for different reasons: Mark Fuhrman.

Why don’t you contact me and if people really want to talk about the case again–there is much more to my work over these years than I have made public–then perhaps we should. However, my understanding is that most folks really don’t care any longer.

Junot,

The same goes for you; I am not “wrong” we just disagree on some matters. The difficulty in any exchange with you that I have observed–from a distance–is that unlike Jasper, you do not want to discuss the case, you want to make pronouncements and then shout everyone else down.

Let the passion go, the case has moved on to its rightful place in history. It can be discussed with the detachment that is necessary for all historical thinking and writing.

All the best,

Joseph

October 15, 2004 @ 9:20 pm | Comment

Mario,

It’s nice to know you’re still around and still so passionate. However, what on earth are you talking about when you write that you didn’t like the way I “played” you? I remember treating you and what you had to say with nothing but respect. I remember some very interesting conversations we had when I was still living on Beachwood Dr. in the Hollywood Hills.

As I pointed out to Jasper and Junot, I am very easy to find and contact at my weblog linked below, The LongBow Papers.

All the best,

Joseph

October 15, 2004 @ 11:11 pm | Comment

Thanks Joe for responding. Remember one of the things we talked about was the night LAPD tried to kill me in the murder for hire plot against me by many scum people including the Ringleader SCUM detective Ronald Y. Ito who is now the Lead Detective in the Robert Blake case. Like I said in my other post, The state of Calif. is holding it’s breath concerning me…… and beleive me so is ron ito,……..Joe you know how I physically felt and was doing back when we got together twice as I remember…..I had to have major
surgeory in may of 1998….But now I’m very, very strong and ready. I will probabaly say because of my situation in the OJ Simpson case and every thing else that went with it, I probably took words out of context and thought the worst of some things and I want to say I’ am sorry and apolgize for my thinking the worst of some of the things we talked about and me always defensive in the OJ case…..Joe you DID treat me with the greatest respect and courtesy….But because of my situation in this case and several other cases and situations, You know how I am, extremely careful and cautious…NO one but ME knows how much info and other materials I have concerning OJ Simpson and several other cases and situations right now…I hope you are doing good Joe ………Congradulations on your marriage….I also have an incredibly great wife now, that is from the Phillipines. WE have been married dfor 2 and 1 half years We are extremely close to each other….Joe I told you this before, I AM GOING TO GET LEGAL JUSTICE FOR MYSELF IN THIS CASE AND MANY OTHER CASES AND SITUATIONS….Thanks Joe Mario G. Nitrini 111

October 15, 2004 @ 11:48 pm | Comment

Hello to Joe, Mario, Jasper and Junot! Mr. Wasz, it is nice to know you are out and safe. On the web site wagnerand son.com, you will find some articles about yourself. Dick Wagner had an interesting experience with a former employee of Kardashian. He really hoped to be able to talk with you before he died. With some many people coming together here, know that Dick is right here with us and will help. It is time to set the record straight and we can only do that by sharing what information we have gathered. Mr. Wasz, do you have any recollection of the size of Kardashian’s feet?

Rose

October 18, 2004 @ 11:41 am | Comment

Rovaan,

All due respect, I hardly remember Kardasian’s shoe size. It definitely wasn’t a twelve or thirteen, if that helps.
Mr. Wagner sent me two very beautiful Christmas cards, when no one else did, so even though I never met the man, he has all my respect and love.

Mario,
I really appreciate the positive comment towards me. I’m sure that everything will work out in the end. But try to calm down a little, nothing is that important. I spent ten and a half years in a box, while people lied about me and tried to kill me, so I know the feelings you’re experiencing. However, I learned to just “go with it” and try to make the best out of the shitty hand we’ve been dealt.
I’m always there for you.

Jasper,
I understand your skeptical standpoint. In a lot of other areas, we’re pretty much the same.
However, without going inot the drastically long complexities, factual information regarding my involvement in that case, you have to look at it objectively; the totality of verifiable, validated circumstances which I relyed to LAPD and Joe are nearly irrefutable. The odds of thses events happening in my life, in direct correlation with what happened, are incalcuable. But, as I said, if we don’t thoroughly questions things, then we are basically social drone and the government would really have a field day with us.
I could refute, challenge each and every one of your statements, but in the long run… what would it matter to me… I did what I did and spent many years paying the price. A price that I still have to bear and may forever will.
Keep challenging though, because if no one did then no one would be interested in the truth.
I wish you well.

Joe,

Well, what can I say? All the best.

Richard,

That you for words of encouragement. They honestly mean quite a bit to me.
I read a lot of your stuff, you’re quite good.

All the best to everyone!!

-Bill Wasz

October 18, 2004 @ 6:57 pm | Comment

Bill

You answered my question about the shoe size. Thanks. Dick Wagner was not one to do Christmas, holidays or birthdays. The fact he sent you two Christmas cards supports the belief he had that you were telling the truth. Maybe from the other world, he will watch your back.

Rose

October 18, 2004 @ 7:29 pm | Comment

Hi BillWasz, .Mario Nitrini here…..Hard for me to calm down Bill when so many people have tried to take me out anyway they could when I’m holding all the cards per say. Bill, you and me are a lot a like. I to was in Prison, Federal and State in the early 1980’s……Definately not as long as you. How you survived is incredibly amazing…I know Joe Bosco had a lot to do with your survival and with your determination and GUTS, what can I say……….Bill, I have so much here’s some more. Joseph Bosco, People ask me ” Who have you hd contact with in the OJ Simpson case. The question should be Who haven’t I had contact with directly or indirectly….On is JAMES WILLWORTH of Time Magazine. Joe. I do my work in sections and that way you can catch poeple lying when you have to. James Willworth told me face to face to face in the Time Magazine office in West L.A. that Your investigation concerning Bill Wasz had taken a lot of time and money and hit a brick wall dead end and turned into a total nothing bust…James Willworth is a total lying SCUM…I also caught him in several lies about my work.. Time Magazine Killed the story because thier “miserable yellow belly cowards’ MY QUOTE………..SCUM Detective RONALD Y. ITO made the statement to me and I quite “I am never going to acknowledged I talked with you meaning me Mario Nitrini…Anyone wanna bet 10,000,000,000,000.trillion Dollars. I want to see the SCUM Detective Pull this LIE off..For those of you who missed it, Detective Ron Ito is the lead investigator in the ROBERT BLAKE CASE…Joe tomorrow Miles
Corwin has to testfy about his ride along with ITO and his observance of evidence collections and other things.. The Judge in the case says he cannot take the Shield Law like someone else I know in the OJ Simpson case and and I’m not talking about Tracie Savage….Think the State of Calif is sweating, you better believe….Gil Garcetti, you conniving criminal no-good pig Trying to take me out anyway he could
, you and many other people are going on the witness stand concerning me. I want to see you and all your buddies lie your way out of what I have……..Anyway, Had to say this….I have so much, much more…People in the Peking Duck, Keep up the good work… Hello ROSE(aka)ROVAAN… Bill Wasz, Dick Wagner was a good man, and one of the very few persons who treated me with respect a dn dignity. He wrote an article on me titled Mario Nitrini and Rocky Bateman……Talk to everyone later Thanks Mario G. Nitrini 111

October 18, 2004 @ 8:31 pm | Comment

Rovaan,

Thank you for letting me know that tidbit about Dick Wagner. It actually does mean a lot to me, to know he offered something he rarely did to anyone else.

Mario,
I understand your pain.
Jim Willwerth…
Well, you may find it interesting to know that he interviewed me in prison, never once letting me know that he was the ghost writer of Kardashian’s book. He acted like he had no knowledge of the man. So yes Mario, I totally agree with you; the man is a bold-faced liar. Also, when I called him on it… he “choked” and would never accept my calls again.
I feel bad for you Mario. I hope that one day you can find it in your heart to forget what these people have done to you. Remember, they did the same to me, maybe worse, but I found that if I spend any amount of time dwelling on it… they win. Because that’s what they want, for us to suffer the rest of our lives over their actions.
Fight back, yes. And fight hard. Just fight in other ways besides their way.
Look up http://www.patriotsmovie.com or try bwasz@patriotsmovie,com
There are plenty of ways… just gotta find them and make it happen.
I wish you all the best.

Ganesh,
I’ll answer those questions by Friday, I promise.

-Bill WAsz

October 20, 2004 @ 2:08 am | Comment

Rovaan,

Thank you for letting me know that tidbit about Dick Wagner. It actually does mean a lot to me, to know he offered something he rarely did to anyone else.

Mario,
I understand your pain.
Jim Willwerth…
Well, you may find it interesting to know that he interviewed me in prison, never once letting me know that he was the ghost writer of Kardashian’s book. He acted like he had no knowledge of the man. So yes Mario, I totally agree with you; the man is a bold-faced liar. Also, when I called him on it… he “choked” and would never accept my calls again.
I feel bad for you Mario. I hope that one day you can find it in your heart to forget what these people have done to you. Remember, they did the same to me, maybe worse, but I found that if I spend any amount of time dwelling on it… they win. Because that’s what they want, for us to suffer the rest of our lives over their actions.
Fight back, yes. And fight hard. Just fight in other ways besides their way.
Look up http://www.patriotsmovie.com or try bwasz@patriotsmovie,com
There are plenty of ways… just gotta find them and make it happen.
I wish you all the best.

Ganesh,
I’ll answer those questions by Friday, I promise.

-Bill Wasz

October 20, 2004 @ 2:09 am | Comment

Hello BILL WASZ……Mario here..Bill, I am a musician and make my living playing for the Great Senior Citizen Community. Iwill respond to your post later when I get finished.. I have 4 shows today…Incredibly interesting ABOUT James Willworth. Now things he said to me are starting to make sense.. What a liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…I will talk to you later on this afternoon Mario Nitrini Bye Bill…

October 20, 2004 @ 9:34 am | Comment

Hello Bill Wasz….Mario Nitrini ……….We’ll start with James Willworth…….I was actually waiting at the time for Joe Bosco’s article to come out in Time Magazine concerning you because it would have helped me in my pursuit of Legal Justice for myself involving my involvement in the OJ Simpson case. I thought for sure it was comong out just like I thought many, many other situations would come out but they never did, either because there have been so many LAWS broken by Gov’t and State employees and civilian people, or their Yellow Belly Criminal Cowards and so on and so on, ECT,ECT,RCT, and many more things. I gave Jim Willworth several names to check me out and I caught him in several lies. He is one of many examples I do my work in sections.. Bill, Lots of other stuff about James Willworth that if it ever gets down to it I will legally nail him on the witness stand…I am going to start giving facts on this Website about the OJ Simpson case and oher situations. I have SO MANY….One thing on James Willworth….In the book American Tradgedy which I did not KNOW that you met with James Willworth, look on page 323…It says Should they call Dale St. John the Limo driver who usually took OJ to the airport( He wasn’t drivng OJ Simpson any more Rocky was, I will get into WHY at another post……….Dale St. John LIED on the witness stand in the civil case. He was a witness for the no good SELL OUT King FRED GOLDMAN and His Criminal Conniving Daughter Kim Goldman..Wait until I get those 2 on the witness stand…Bill, I was in Daniel Petrocelli’s office in 1996, Will see if I can ever get Daniel Petrocelli and his LEGAL SELLOUT SCUM on the witness stand someday I’ll bet you I can and BOY people are going to be AMAZED,AMAZED,AMAZED, They along with many other people will have to take th 5th amendment when I start asking questions Gaurenteed. They can’t lie, I got them… Yes Bill, Fred Goldman and his daughter are one of many, many people who have tried to have me destroyed throughout the years, WHY I will get them on the witness stand…I’m still here and ready…….. Back to Dale St. John. Dale St. john was forced to go on the Witness stand in the civil cases against OJ because i legally forced him to….Go to Walravens Civil case against OJ and look at the witness list for the Plaintiffs… There is no No Dale St. John…..Of course no one will ever admit it but he had no choice to go on the witness stand because of my legal jockying. Dale St. John from Aug of 1993 to june 1994 drove ANDREW LLOYD WEBBER and Rocky Bateman drove OJ SIMPSON, Later why on that… Of course Rocky drove all around the Los Angeles area with OJ in THE limo without Dale ST. John not even Knowing doing who knows what…I know some CRIMINAL things they were doing and I will also save that for the WITNESS STAND. Bill, go to players at CNN. and look up Rocky Bateman…It says He drove OJ for 3 and one half years.. A blantant lie. And of course if CNN is wrong about that, what else are they wrong about..Back to James Willworth and lawance Shiller. They are wrong about Dale ST. John, WHAT ELSE ARE THEY WRONG ABOUT..Look on page 42 of American Tradgedy…It says Cathy RandA SENT DALE sT. JOHNS LIMOUSINE SERVICE TO PICK UP Paula up at the airport. Kardashian was amazed to hear that Allan Park drove her in. You Know why Kardashian was amazed….Because He knew Rocky always drove OJ Simpson and Kardashian knew something was Odd later on that topic…What was Rocky doing at that time in the very early part of the OJ SIMPSON case, Unloading several items of OJ’s and several other thing…You see, I have Rocky backed tracked and had several conversations with after the June 12, 1994 Killings of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, shall we I have ROCKY say (( documented)) BIG TIME.. Rocky boy, you better Never, Ever hope I get you on the witness stand , and that goes for so MANY,MANY PEOPLE IN THIS CASE AND OTHER CASES AND SITUATION….sO MUCH, MUCH MORE TO COME BILL….I have some interesting questions for Joe Bosco about a couple of other people in this case. I will post it Later…..Bill I was on David Bresnahan’s National Radio show in march of 2001 and will have you know on the air nationally I said YOU Were 100% RIGHT IN WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY, SO YOU CAN SEE it’s just not now I knew you were on the money, actually it was from a long time ago… I will go for now and I want RICHARD to know The Peking Duck is my home now for OJ Simpson Information and I guess my Challenges to anyone that wants to discuss this case and several other cases and situations Hope you don’t mind Richard… I LEGALLY will back down from no one..Bill, Right now I’m am going to look up that patriot game website you wanted me to look at…….Talk to you later Mario Nitrini 111………

October 20, 2004 @ 7:45 pm | Comment

Mario, I’m honored. Please post your comments here anytime.

October 20, 2004 @ 7:47 pm | Comment

Thank you RICHARD for your great support……………Mario G. Nitrini 111 here. Joe Bosco, How are you? …When are you going to post articles on your website. Last one was Oct. 7, 2004?…..Joe If you can answer and are not bind by confidentiality, First question….Were you in the middle of writing a tell all book about the OJ Simpson case with Robbery Homicide Detective Bert Luper, One of my sources told me you were back in the year 2000-2001..That would have been pretty incredible and good…….Second. This is pretty Bizairre…Did Bill Pavelic, One of OJ Simpsons main investigators approach you to to a tell all book? It is hard for me to accept that, BUT. Of course, up in Hollywood where you used to live we both discussed my several conversations with Bill Pavelic on the phone. Pavelic had forgotton who I was and went on his usual punk ass deceptive fishing expedition but this time hooked me, MGN, A STREET WISE SHARK…Legally, for OJ Simpson it was a Bad, Bad move on Bill Pavelic’s part. Also, you have the 4 pages of Fax sheets I sent him concerning what he asked for about SCUM Detective Ronald Y. Ito….I gave those to you along with many other documents at the time… But Joe, You wouldn’t believe the documents and shall we say other LEGAL materials I have now , Unbelievable, The Best LEGAL security money can’t buy. Joe, I believe you are in Contact with Retiered DET. Tom Lange. I, Mario G. Nitrini will grant you Det. Tom Lange IMMUNITY from Prosecution concerning your conspiracy to have me MURDERED, and other crimes you committed concerning me and will give you Immunity for you LYING on the witness stand in the OJ Simpson Civil case regarding ME, Mario G. Nitrini. Det Lange and all others, Do you know HOW many times MY FEDERAL AND STATE CIVIL rights were VIOLTED. TOO MANY TO COUNT..And dof course DET. Lange, you know that by people covering up what happened to me iss also a CRIME.. You violate your own laws…DISPICABLE, DET> LANGE ……..You once made a statement on National TV you were up for any CHALLENGE regarding the OJ Simpson case….I’ll tell you what again DET LANGE. I Legally CHALLENGE you AGAIN for the who knows how many times I have Challenged you,. And don’t worry, OJ SIMPSON won’t be able to use your words to his Legal Benefit. Remember Rocky Bateman. You know Rocky Bateman don’t you Det. Lange………………….You cannot lie your way out of that one Det. Tom Lange…..Joseph Bosco, see if you can get the BRAVE DET. TOM LANGE to read this post on my Home for OJ SIMPSON information, THE PEKING DUCK………… Thanks Joe, and Your scenario is oooooooohhhhhhhhh, so incredibly close with just a few missing links with which I I can connect but probably only by putting a lot of people on the witness stand. But I can do it…Joe I have had contact with so many people in this case, it will even amaze you. YOUR incredibly close.. I said it again…………………Bill Wasz, Your dignity is a great GREAT thing Talk to everyone later Mario G. Nitrini

October 20, 2004 @ 10:07 pm | Comment

Here’s a bit of news that is extremely confidential….
Bill Pavelic, an attorney, and two “mercenaries” are under secret Federal Grand Jury hearings, potentially to be indicted…. very soon.
Anyone care to know why???

Bill Wasz

October 21, 2004 @ 10:38 am | Comment

Hi Bill……..Mario nitrini………..Are you trying to tease me into insanity, Of course I want to know as much as you probably can tell me…………..You know that Pavelic was one the investigators for Mark Geragos in the Michael Jackson case and Bill I believe I posted it earlier in general my many conections in the Michael Jackson cases……Bill Pavelic, you are going to get absolutely NO help from me, Mario Nitrini. Bill you got to let us know NOW Bill Pavelic is definately A real snake. He tried to Sucker me NO WAY could he do me. Mario Nitrini Thanks Bill WASZ

October 21, 2004 @ 7:32 pm | Comment

Mario,

Pavelic, an attorney and two “mercenaries” were the ones responsible for Andrew Luster fleeing the country. The “Max Factor” kid.
They, the Feds, have wire transfer record, and many other intriguing items. Pavelic must face the wrath that I faced when I wronged society.
I know all this because I’m very much involved in the “Max Factor” case. So much so that it troubles me at times.
Don’t fret, Pavelic will be eating that crap I ate for many years, real soon.
Sic Semper Tyrannis.
Bill Wasz

October 21, 2004 @ 9:39 pm | Comment

Bill Wasz…….Mario Nitrini here..That is unbelievable….Bill, you said you are very much involved in the Andrew Luster case. I hope you are all right. If I’m reading into this right, might you have to testify about something? You gotta be O.K……….Bill ANY information you have concerning any player in the OJ Simpson saga that you can share with me and not put yourself in any kind of awkward position, I would really like to know…..I will tell you this Bill, You don’t know how much this information on Bill Pavelic has helped me in my continuing quest for MY legal justice>>>>>>>keep it comin BABY..Bill, the same goes for me, You tell me what you need. I am the best Back Watcher and loyal friend
you could ever have. If I can help you, PLEASE let me know….Everything we do MUST be LEGALand Fair…We are holding all the CARDS…I mean it, you gotta let me know what I can do for you. Some day we WILL get together and what an incredible day that will be. Joseph Bosco, Your NOT invited…Just kidding Joe. You can come to. Bill, I gaurentee you there are several people starting to peer in on the PEKING Duck concerning the OJ SIMPSON case…We are to be slow and cautious and Legal. That reminds me, JOSEPH BOSCO, Are you going to give me an answer to one of my posts above asking you questions about Bert Luper, Bill Pavelic and Tom Lange? If you can’t, that’s ok, but let me know Thank you Richard for letting us continue our Legal quest for the truth regarding th OJ Simpson case, which by the way, I gaurentee everybody as you can see with the INCREDIBLE Bill Wasz, IS going to lead in many other situations………………………………Bye for now Mario G. Nitrini111

October 21, 2004 @ 10:03 pm | Comment

Bill I forgot to ask Joe, Where in his book problem of evidence does Patrick Mckenna talk to Dale St. John? If at all… Joe is it in your book about that? Anyway,BILL, I got to get to bed. I have 4 more shows tomorrow and I am playing baseketball after… Talk to you tomorrow night Mario

October 21, 2004 @ 10:32 pm | Comment

Question for Bill, Mario and Joe- What do you think is behind the Bundy murders- drugs, sports betting, pornography, jealousy or what?

Rovaan

October 23, 2004 @ 12:23 am | Comment

Hello Rovaan(aka)Rose..Again today, I have another 4 shows to do…..I will respond to your post above later this evening…I don’t have enough time right now….Talk to you this evening…………….Mario Nitrini

October 23, 2004 @ 10:32 am | Comment

Rose (AKA)Rovaan…Mario here…. On David Bresnahan’s National Radio Show that I was on in March of 2001, I gave the general scenario, (Actually very little at that) of What Rocky asked me to do and it is also in Dick Wagners column on me in Wagnerandson.com…….Without going over it again I will give you some FACTS of what I have. Drugs, Rocky and OJ Simpson, a definate yes. Rose, the only way I’m going down that road is to put several people on the witness stand because it is BIG time..Jealousy, a definate yes. I have several times first hand that jealousy was involved with OJ and Nicole. Sports betting I no NOTHING about…Pornography, BIG BIG TIME. I am Not going down that road unless it is ONLY on the WITNESS stand GAURENTEED…..Christopher Darden, You WERE on the right track. But you needed ME mario G. Nitrini 111. That’s all I’m going to say about that. Rovaan, Many of your IAGO associates bad talked me real bad. Not that it bothers me a lot but for Some very intelligent people and they really have come up with some extroadinary evidence and situations, I CHALLENGE them to talk to me on the PEKING DUCK about the OJ Simpson case.. NO ONE can beat me at anything in this case. A few examples. Rocky Bateman, SCUM Detective Ron Ito, Bill Pavelic, Gloria Allred, Marcia Clark, the Miserable BITCH. Ms. Clark, I was not coming out of he woodwork and I do know an INCREDIBLE amount of information about the case. GAURENTEED. Detective Tom Lange. Good Lord, I can go on and on and on. In fact, I challenge anybody and everybody about the OJ Simpson case. And still I can go on and on and on,ECT,ECT,ECT…. In peson, on the phone or on the Peking Duck Whatever…Come On, Where’s all the brave people. …………… Jasper Garrison, you say you have all this evidence of the REAL KILLERS but you can’t dispute anything I have, In fact, YOU posted on IAGO “why is anyone paying attention to this” me, Mario Nitrini.. now I know your not stupid, in fact your a very intelligent man, SO let’s talk……ROSE, I cannot get in to details on MANY, MANY things because I would have to put people on the winess stand to Protect myself from ALL the lying SCUM in this case…………………..I am going to start posting some facts about different people in the case everytime I make a post on the Peking DUCK>>>……John JUNOT. Heres ( Kato Kaelin, the LITTLE BITCH) He’s scared to death about the world of OJ SIMPSON.. He’s seen some things. Scares him to death and yet he delved into some of it cowardly…. Connected to ROCKY BATEMAN, you Bet…Kato Kaelin you cowardly scab, Your another person that better hope I never get on the wilness stand. Rose any information always helps me in my goal getting Leagal Justice for myself …Talk to you latter…. Mario G. Nitrini 111

October 23, 2004 @ 6:37 pm | Comment

Mario-

Sorry it took so long for me to answer. Things have been busy. Four shows a day! It must be busy for you also. I appreciate your time in responding to my question. My information on the case is limited mostly to what information Dick has already shared with you. There have been few if any new discoveries since his death. Most of the people who post at the IAGO board are convinced of Jasper’s scenario so it would be difficult to convince them of anything else. I am not, but find their discussion of the case great for stimulating ideas for further research. There is information that you have that they do not have. I continue to wonder why Dale St. John called Allen Park to drive before Rocky called him to cancel driving? I think we have talked about this on the phone. I hope you have copies of your information safely placed with someone in case anything would happen to you. Any information you can safely provide could help those of us still looking for the truth.

Rovaan

October 25, 2004 @ 9:06 pm | Comment

Hello Rovaan…Rose, that is many, many, many, one of SO many LIES I caught Rocky Bateman in..He couldn’t go on the witness stand in a MILLION years with me, Just like so many more people in the case they can’t go for many reasons. Also remember, A lot of my early INFORMATION was according to ROCKY and I have proven how much we can believe ROCKY.. Rose, we will use the word materials for various reasons, but don’t worry Rose, I have my MATERIALS safely hidden in several different places… I started my investigation on June 14, 1994 and have never stopped and I have details and info and many other we’ll call them so called items that nobobdy has, I had already thought about securing my info and materials from early on because I know how corrupt and criminal the GOV’T. is and other people are. Everything is safe and ready to go….NO ONE is going to cheat me out of what I have unless they kill me and that has already been tried more than once in many, many ways. Also, several people have tried to SUCKER me in giving them certain, shall we say items concerning the case,,,,, NO WAY….Concerning the people in IAGO. I am very interested in what they have to say and the Information they uncover… I am used to being bad talked so it’s OK…I still would like to discuss many, many items and situations with them so Where are they…….. I really hate to give my infor mation away because I want it for the witness stand but I did say I would POST something new every time I POST…………….Listen to this coincidence. Do you know what the name of Bill Pavelic’s daughter is…. NICOLE…Pretty unreal….Like I said. Pavelic went fishing for what something he thought I knew and came up with a LEGAL SHARK ATTACK.. Getting pretty late for me Rovaan, Talk to you soon Mario G. Nitrini 111 ROSE, Please keep up the great work, Like Dick say’s WE ARE GOING TO FIGURE THIS OUT and I WILL get MY LEGAL JUSTICE, GAURENTEED………………….

October 26, 2004 @ 12:56 am | Comment

Mario-

It looks like it is just you and me talking here and we could do that in email. As always, it is good to hear from you. Email me if you hear new information or if I could do some research on something for you.

Rovaan

October 27, 2004 @ 2:01 pm | Comment

hello Rovaan(AKA)Rose…..It’s OK that were the only ones posting……I am very comfortable with Richard as the administrator…I truly believe he is a loyal man and that’s extremely hard to find, SO, I for one will answer anyone who Posts here. This is MY home for the OJ SIMPSON case. Here’s Kato again. Now this is according to ROCKY. You know of course Rocky and OJ would fide around Los Angeles in THE LIMO owned by Dale ST. John without St. John even knowing it Doing there BUSINESS ventures, shall we say in several area’s. One time they saw a homeless looking DOG and OJ said that they were going to name the dog after KATO because KATO was so pathetic. Now that’s according to ROCKY BATEMAN….. I will talk to you latter Rose, I am going to go play baseketball now Mario

October 27, 2004 @ 5:35 pm | Comment

Rose(AKA)Rovaan Go to court TV and you will see an article about OJ. One of his Business associates and shall we say he has many, has to testify about OJ’s finances…Actually, they are just hitting the TIP OF THE ICEBERG when it comes to his money and shall we say BUSINESS DEALINGS. The trouble is that that CREEP, FRED(the sellout)GOLDMAN and his attorney’s just don’t know where to look……………..HERE WE GO

October 27, 2004 @ 5:52 pm | Comment

Folks,

I am sorry that I have been out of touch for so long; I have just been swamped with work for weeks. I should have a bit of discretionary time coming up, so I thought I would put up a post on The LongBow Papers where we all might gather. It is now up.

I look forward to seeing you there. Although please continue reading The Peking Duck daily, it is good for the soul.

All the best,

Joseph

October 30, 2004 @ 11:54 pm | Comment

Hello Joseph Bosco….I Posted on your LONGBOW website…Of course, I have many more questions for you, will do them from time to time………….I know there are many people in the world looking at the PEKING DUCK website under the OJ SIMPSON POST of June 20, 2004. Where are you all? Thanks agian Richard for the use of your Website…Like I said before, I will get my LEGAL JUSTICE for myself in TIME………Mario G. Nitrini 111…….

October 31, 2004 @ 11:10 am | Comment

Joe,

Forgive me for taking so long to get back to you but I never got your e-mail (trooper173@smarfellowspress.net ) and I don’t know why your message didn’t bounce back to you undelivered. I also didn’t know about your response to my October 15 post. I expected to hear from Richard on the Iago Discussion Board at smartfellowspress.com so I could put a link to his site on mine if he was interested. I didn’t hear from him and neither John Junot nor Rose told me that they visited the Peking Duck. Then I got eyebrow-deep in trying to restore my site from a late September server crash. Only when I got a post from Lollie a few hours ago asking me whether I had been back to the Peking Duck did I know that anything came of my Peking Duck post.

I DO know what you mean about people speaking of you as though you were something other than a human being. I get it all the time. The problem for all of us is that a name is only an abstraction until we form a personal connection to “it.” All we have to go on are impersonal things we have read, seen or heard in the media or personal things people have said or written about us (that’s for you Bill and Mario). Without feedback to tell us how close our picture of the “entity” comes to the person we can’t adjust the picture.

Until Richard put me on to the Peking Duck (thanks Richard!) the only interactive forums I knew about for discussing the O.J. case other than the Iago Discussion Board were useless. That was one reason I put up the board in the first place – to find people who knew more than I did or wanted to know more than any of us could independently discover through the resources at our disposal and the biases leading us astray.

Another reason for putting up the Iago board was to create a dynamic extension of Iago in Brentwood for testing theories and finding and correcting factual errors. That’s why I needed to know what you could tell me about Denise Brown saying that she saw O.J. wearing the killer’s shoes. You are the only source I have for this information and I’m sure you won’t take offence at me telling you that your good name is not enough. Everybody makes mistakes. Did you write “Denise” when you intended to write “Dominique”? Does your source for that particular bit of information meet your usual standards of reliability? Can you document the assertion?

I’m not picking on you. I’m picking on the Iago hypotheses. I went though this process with every major element that comprises it and this is a major element.

I never liked the Iago hypotheses because too much of it rested on speculation like Denise Brown’s part in a small conspiracy, her use of a cell phone, her connection to Faye Resnick, her ability to steal her mother’s glasses, etc. Iago was only supposed to be a logic exercise to test O.J.’s absurd claim that he didn’t do it and to see who could account for anomalies like the ones you pointed out in A Problem of Evidence. I still don’t like it. Yours sounds better (the police framed a guilty man) but as soon as I made my first animation (Marcia’s Story 1) I saw that O.J. couldn’t have done it. No way. That leaves Iago and questions that only Bill Wasz and you can answer to see if it stands up.

Please drop a line on the Iago discussion board when you get the chance (you, too, Bill and Mario). I don’t trust my e-mail. –Jasper

November 5, 2004 @ 2:39 pm | Comment

Jasper, I just put up a brief reference to this thread over on Iago. I didn’t realize you were expecting me to put a link there; sorry it took me so long! Thanks for joining the discussion.

November 5, 2004 @ 2:50 pm | Comment

Mario,

You are right about me writing, “Why is anyone paying attention to this?” I remember doing it but it was a long time ago and I don’t recall who you are or why I said it.

Courage is not at issue here. I do not doubt that you had the courage to respond to my unforgivably brutish statement about you. My question is, why didn’t you? I don’t understand the problem.

I do not censor what anyone says on my discussion boards. I do not insist that anyone agree with me and I actively encourage honest dissent. I have a permanent link to Junot’s web page and Wagner’s and I put a link to the Pecking Duck in the first post I made after Richard e-mailed it to me. All I need is his permission to make it permanent.

If you want to, you can list the reasons on the Iago Discussion Board why EVERYONE should be paying attention to what you wrote. Unfortunately, I can’t recall what it was or why I dismissed it out of hand. If you follow my posts you will see that I rarely do that, which is why I remember doing it out of the thousands of Iago posts I’ve responded to since 1998. I don’t think I even responded that harshly to any of the death treats I used to get following some radio talk show interviews I did in ’99 and 2000 to promote Iago in Brentwood. Either something was VERY wrong in you message or something was VERY wrong with the way I read it. Shouldn’t be hard to figure that one out

Point by point refutations of anything I say are always welcome. Please feel free to post yours anytime. –Jasper

November 5, 2004 @ 4:01 pm | Comment

Bill,

This is what l I knew about you until a month ago: What I read in the O.J. trial transcripts, Donald Freed’s Killing Time, Paula Barbieri’s The Other Woman, Jeffrey Toobin’s The Run of his Life, Joe Bosco’s article about you and Kardashian, a few Iago posts and what I heard on radio and TV. Obviously, this leaves a lot of room for error on my part.

You know more about me than I know about you. Please tell me how we are the same and why the documentation you have to dispute the speculation I have about you is not worth bothering to post here or on the Iago Discussion Board. Isn’t everyone the same in some ways and isn’t documented evidence ALWAYS better than speculation? This is the sort of thing that makes my “con game” antenna twitch. Is that what you meant when you said you understood why I came to some of my conclusions about you?

I know how smart you are and you know how smart I am. Looking objectively at what I have to work, how can I buy your story? It fits too well with the pattern of things Joe missed in A Problem of Evidence. If you had contacted me, I got the feeling that you would have told a story that fits with the pattern of things I missed in Ingo in Brentwood.

Here’s what I mean by “patterns”:

Joe concluded from blood evidence collected, stored and disseminated by the LAPD lab that O.J. must have been on the murder scene. He concluded from the statements of Stewart Tanner (among other things, I presume) that Ron Goldman stopped by Nicole’s condo to drop off Juditha Brown’s glasses. He got the sequence of events following Robert Heidstra’s “Hey!, Hey! Hey!” wrong (check the transcripts). I don’t think Joe sees what’s wrong with his analysis of the blood evidence, his conclusion about Tanner and Goldman hooking up to go to the Baja Cantina or the significance of the sequence of events Heidstra described after he heard the “Hey! Hey! Hey!” I think you do. I think you see the pattern.

Everything Joe quoted you on in his article and the references he gave to back it up follow the same pattern. It all makes sense as far as it goes but it doesn’t go far enough to exclude other possibilities. The farther you go into those other possibilities and the harder you try to knock them down the more probable some of them become.

The mistakes I made in Iago in Brentwood are more numerous than the ones Joe made in A Problem of Evidence. I didn’t even have Heidstra in the right alley. I had the three Rockingham foyer blood drops in the wrong place and my speculation that Elsie Tistaert’s dog saw a man enter the Bundy front gate was totally off the mark. There is a pattern to these errors, too and I think that you have the rare ability to see the pattern and fashion a story around the undisputed evidence in your case to fit it.

That’s were I am and that’s’ where I will be stuck until you or Joe unstick me with facts that aren’t subject to manipulation or multiple interpretations – like statements from people you don’t know who saw you talking to Kardashian at the bar. You are a hard guy to miss in any crowd. Robert Kardashian’s face was well known at the time of the murders. Joe Bosco is a seasoned reporter. Where are the witnesses? –Jasper

November 5, 2004 @ 5:55 pm | Comment

Richard,

I put up a link to your site in an Iago post when you sent me the e-mail suggesting that I would find it interesting. I did. That’s why I posted here the first time. Forgive me for not making that clear.

I didn’t’ hear from you or any of your regular posters so I thought I bombed with you and them and turned my attention to restoring the missing posts, broken links and lost pages in High Points, Animations and the Smoking Gun books. I still have a bug in the comments box that runs all the paragraph together. It looks as though I’m going to have to live with it for a while.

You did nothing to apologize for. I screwed up. I had no indication on the Iago board or in my e-mail that you ever went back to smartfellowspress or found anything I wrote in my Pecking Duck post of value so I never came back here. I should have. This is a great resource and, with your permission, I’d like to add it to my permanent links with the transcripts, Wagner, Junot, etc. on the home page, the discussion page and the monthly Iago Discussion Boards. Should be able to get to it before the weekend is out. –Jasper

November 5, 2004 @ 6:28 pm | Comment

Jasper, feel free to put up a link, as I said. I never meant for this post to become a magnet on this topic, and the collection of voices is truly fascinating.

November 5, 2004 @ 6:36 pm | Comment

Jasper Garrison…Thank you for responding to my Post of a few week ago…I will respond extensivly tomorrow on your post and the Peking duck. I AM PRETTY TIRED RIGHT NOW. I did 5 shows today….On the posts in IAGO of March 15-24 about my interview on David Bresnahans radio show,I did not post on IAGO..I only read what poeple said about me and my interview…It’s OK…..Jasper, I have so much in this case and I will tell you this, With the people who are involved with trying to assassinate me and take me out any way they could because of what I HAVE in the OJ SIMPSON cases and other cases and other situations and they still are, I WILL get them on the WITNESS stand one way or another and there are more illegal, criminal, people than what I just have on my filings….They have 3 options!!! 1. Tell the truth. They can’t because I will LEGALLY nail them and they will go to JAIL because they are corrupt criminal PIGS. 2.LIE, They can’t because of me and 3, Take the 5th amendment…I’ll bet the take the 5th….. Jasper, like I said before,YOU and your group have come up with some INCREDIBLE and truthful Information, I know because I have researched some of it…100% on the money..You talk about Faye resnick and her Illegal activity, and come to think of it, she could be part of the group who tried to assassinate me.. Wait until I legally pursue her.. you ain’t seen legally nothing…Jasper, if I may,,,Sometimes reading your POSTS about Mark Furhman, my feeling is you let your emotions overshadow your GREAT INTELLIGENCE…We KNOW FURHMAN is a FILTHY RASCIST PIG and a horrible liar. That’s just my feeling about you in just that situation….One thing NO ONE COULD or DO IN THE oj simpson CASES OR ANYTHING ELSE is call me a rascist..I have friends of all types of race, and religion. In my opinion a person is either GOOD OR BAD…I looked at Furhman and I myself caught him in LIES that nobody else has caught. Also I had contact with his radio show…Like always, and just about everyone else, he and his show wanted nothing to do with me. WHY Good QUESTION. Jasper, PLEASE ask your group to read the POSTS in the PEKING DUCK. You have some pretty intelligent people in that group ….I probably need to FAX YOU a lot of my information and LEGAL documents…You won’t believe your eyes…I FEAR NOTHING..I am getting pretty tired right now Jasper, Again thank you for responding..I WILL NEVER give up in my GOAL for myself getting Legal Justice for myself..And Legal Justice comes in all legal forms…Like I said before, I AM HOLDING ALL THE CARDS, I JUST HAVEN’T PLAYED OUT VERY MANY OPTIONS YET. I CHALLENGE ANYONE AND EVERYONE IN THE LEGAL QUEST IN THE OJ SIMPSON CASES AND OTHER CASES AND OTHER SITUATIONS. I will tell you this Jasper Garrison, I have a very open mind to any and all situations concerning anything……I will post tomorrow…Thanks again Mario G. Nitrini 111 You seem to be a good man Jasper. Good night

November 5, 2004 @ 8:33 pm | Comment

Hello Jasper Garrison…..Mario Nitrini here…………….Thank you for responding to my post of a few weeks ago…I am pretty tired righ now because I did 5 shows today…..I do want to respond a llittle to you…I will respond A LOT tomorrow on your board “IAGO” and MY HOME for OJ SIMPSON material. THE PEKING DUCKl. I did not post on your board. I read the posts of MARCH 17, 2001 on your board about me and my Radio interview with David Bresnahan….I will tell you this: MOST of my life I have always been underestimated..WHY, I DON’T KNOW…But it has definatly worked to my advantage in a lot of legal and other situations. I really hope your group read ALL of the posts in the PEKING DUCK…You and your group really have come up with some incredible and (I have researched a lot of it and it is TRUE….Jasper) information…GOOD MOVE about not using your E-mail…Niether do I…….I am HATED by everyone on both sides, Plus the Media and a lot more because of who am and what I can prove AND should I ever get ANYONE WHO HAS TRIED TO KILL ME ON THE WITNESS STAND, or for that matter, Just about everyone in the case and other cases and situations, They have 1 of 3 options 1.Tell the truth, THEY CAN’T because they will go to jail because of all the criminal acts they have committed in the case and out of the case which goes into other cases and situations….2 LIE. They can’t because of me.3 Take the 5th Amendment…I’ll bet that’s what they are going to do…Jasper, With the PEOPLE close to the OJ SIMPSON cases and other situations that go along with it, only 3 people have done me RIGHT…Joseph Bosco, Bill Boyarsky and Dick Wagner…You mention Faye Resnick and Denise Brown…Like I said in my other posts in the PEKING DUCK, From me You ain’t seen nothing yet I HAVE SO, SO MUCH…And I challenge ANYONE and EVERYONE in this case and other situations and cases. Jasper, Sometimes I get a SENSE that you let your EMOTIONS top your GREAT INTELLIGENCE about Mark Furhman…We KNOW he is a RACSIST PIG A HORRIBLE Liar..I am going to post this and my other post. Thanks Jasper for responding…Richard, WHERE IS JOSEPH BOSCO…I responded to his TALKING OG on the Longbow papers…I hope he is OK Mario G. Nitrini 111

November 5, 2004 @ 8:52 pm | Comment

Dont you let Mark Fuhrman get away as a MERELY racist cop, that retired, has a picture of Adolph Hitler on his wall, but WAS A GOOD COP, AND WE ALL FORGIVE HIM THE N-WORD - no more of that, please.

Just to remind everybody:
Mark Fuhrman has given a definitely false alibi to Marcia Clark, that he would have been at the protective league alibi, which was LONG OVER at the time (see the book Blood Oath, or SolvingTheSimpsonMurder by C.Springer)

what does M.Clark say about this - hm? stupid robot follower of Ron Hubbard

And then he CHANGED it: He says he was at a gas station, with the credit card transaction the alleged proof of his innocence (WITH HIS INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER SCOUT VEHICLE, THAT TOTALLY RESEMBLES A WHITE FORD BRONCO look at this please: http://www.justinternationals.org/members/mistimunns/mmst-2.jpg)

Did anyone ever bother to find out more about Caroline Fuhrman? She lied by telling MFs phony alibi in the first place. Where in the world was Mark Fuhrman? How can such an absolute suspect in the case get away without an alibi, while Fred Fraud Goldman is soon going to smash OJs Heisman trophy with a sledgehammer, as he promised to do???

November 6, 2004 @ 4:20 am | Comment

Sorry Jasper for lowering the niveau of your discussion with Mr Bosco with my post.
But just like Mark Fuhrman used to say “the glove is everything”, and instilled all the deceiving evidence into our minds, i would suggest “Mark Fuhrman’s 94 car is everything”. There’s virtually no one in the world that doesn’t remember the Bronco. Show these people the IH Scout of Fuhrman and they’ll forever doubt Fuhrmans innocence.
Mario, i believe you got some good information on this case, and i believe you when you say you have to save it for the witness stand. If you have anything about Fuhrman’s whereabouts the night of the murders, it would be great - was he truly at a gas station as he said?
Some stupid posters at alt.fan.oj-simpson made it their habit defending Fuhrman, saying he had an extramarital affair the night of the murders. If that is true, it should eventually be made public not to mislead the investigation of those that are still researching the case.

November 6, 2004 @ 12:38 pm | Comment

Hello Mario,
Do you happen to know Mark Fuhrman’s blood type? If you do, are you at liberty to tell us? Thank you.

November 6, 2004 @ 1:38 pm | Comment

Hello Lollie. Thank you for you Post.. Mario here……..That is a great Question….I do not know his bloodtype…Lollie, I need to go over some of my notes that I took about Furhman watching TV interview shows and also I have some other Material I need to go over about him. I have my materials in several different locations so if someone got a hold of one set of materials and destroyed it I will ALWAYS have a back up.. And don’t you think that there aren’t people and agencies who would LOVE to destroy me and my will call it materials…Lollie, Follow me CLOSE…ANYONE who doesn’t think THE PEKING DUCK and IAGO IN BENTWOOD is being tracked and followed by LAPD, THE Los angeles District Attorney’s office, the
State of Calif law Officers and people. the Plaintiffs in the OJ SIMPSON saga, The defense in the OJ Simpson saga, OJ Simpson HIMSELF and many, many other Government agencies and people, and The Cowardly MEDIA are only fooling themselves…We are being observed with everyone holding their Legal Breath….Gaurenteed. Lollie, Please feel free to ask me any question you want… If I can answer it, I will..But Understand Lollie, I have so much in this case, which goes into other cases and situations, SOME things I NEED to save for the WITNESS STAND so I CAN get Legal Justice for MYSELF….Thanks Lollie, Mario G. Nitrini

November 6, 2004 @ 6:38 pm | Comment

Interesting thought, Mario. Why would you say the LAPD and others are watching us? Isn’t most of this stuff things that have been said before?

November 6, 2004 @ 6:54 pm | Comment

Hi Ludwig,,,When I first read the Posts on IAGO on Mark Furhman About his alibis, I was intrigued..I researched it myself and SURE enough IAGO was 100% on the money…Ludwig, I am definately not Legally letting Furhman off as a LYING RASCIST PIG which he is and several other dispicable things to……My focus really wasn’t on Furhman…I did follow him because he was central in the case.. One of my Major focuses though was on the Slimey Bitch Faye Resnick…A lot of people underestimated me for a long time, BUT I Gaurentee you Not any more… I went into palces and situations that very few people can get into to gather Legal information and let’s call them Legal Materials. Read my Post in the Peking Duck to Lollie above. I need to research some of my notes on Mark Furhman………Ludwig CONSIDER THIS:::If someone or a group of people accused you of MURDER and you were innocent wouldn’t be LEGALLY in their FACE beyond belief…I know I would no matter what…But not Furhman, KAELIN, Ron Shipp, Denise Brown, Brad Roberts, Faye Resnick, OJ SIMPSON, and several more people. It does seem baffeling…I have posted before on the Peking Duck that I have been asked the Question whom have I spoken to in this case?…The question should be Whom HAVEN”t I spoken to Directly or Indirectly in this case….Ludwig, I am going to speak my mind no MATTER what….THIS is directed at ALL the people PEERING in on all the POSTS in The Peking Duck and IAGO in BRENTWOOD…..You don’t like what I do::Either SHUT UP of do Something about it…..Ludwig I met with Neil Schulman back in the Fall of 2000…We talked for about 2 hours….I told him SOMETHING about OJ’s Blood that I hadn’t told anyone and asked him please don’t tell anyone…He honored my request and It has never come out…GOOD for Neil Schulman..He told me he challenged Ron Shipp to Sue him But shipp didn’t…Also he tried to get OJ Simpson to look into his theory, but Simpson declined…If someone is not guilty of what someone is or a Gov”t Agency is accusing you of…WELL, Legally get in their faces ………That goes for both sides in the OJ Simpson cases and more cases and more situations…..I need to respond in IAGO, Luddwig…I will post more tonight……………Thanks Ludwig Mario Nitrini

November 6, 2004 @ 7:12 pm | Comment