Turkey Day Open Thread


Okay, so Firedoglake and Dependable Renegade already have this up. But I’m feeling the holiday spirit…

So what’s on your plate?

The Discussion: 20 Comments

The verdict on this sinful turkey’s pardon was swiftly reversed…

November 23, 2005 @ 5:25 pm | Comment

Good comment Johnny. George seems to have that expression on his face lately; it was the same expression he had when he tried the locked door in China. Someone should run a string of such photos with the question, “What is this man doing wrong?”

November 23, 2005 @ 9:11 pm | Comment

“Victory/defeat” are values relative to political goals. What we’d need to know is under what conidtions and to what ends the two sides fight.

November 23, 2005 @ 10:46 pm | Comment

Richard,
I’m dying to know how it’s going with your SO. Has Taipei met with approval? Did you have a nice trip out of town? Are things looking good? I do hope so.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and other American-type people.

November 23, 2005 @ 11:00 pm | Comment

Oh, just noticed that this thread was put up by Other Lisa, not Richard, so he must still be on his trip.

Oh well, Happy Thanksgiving to Other Lisa too.

November 23, 2005 @ 11:28 pm | Comment

Canada has already had Thanksgiving a while ago, so Americans must have stolen the idea.

November 23, 2005 @ 11:53 pm | Comment

My Thanksgiving feast consisted of warmed over pasta leftover from last night. Oh well.

I also re-read the chapter on the Pilgrims in “Lies my Teacher Told Me”. Squanto’s real story is particularly striking, far more interesting than the pabulum we were served when I was a kid. I think my generation was the last to get the hokey fairy-tale version of the Plymouth Rock settlement story.

Fortunately American schools are apparently now teaching something a little coser to the histrical record.

Anyway, Happy Thanksgiving!

November 24, 2005 @ 1:25 am | Comment

Strange animals those turkeys. Is this one one of those famous war-turkeys of the US Air Force? Seems to have quite a fighting spirit. No surrender, even when facing the most powerfull man in the world. Respect.

November 24, 2005 @ 3:48 am | Comment

Though I have to say, the Chinese war-pandas are also quite impressive.

November 24, 2005 @ 4:04 am | Comment

I like the English War-hedgehogs myself.

My thanksgiving will be on saturday in london, but tonight I’ll be having gyoza and tofu, domo arigato gozaimasu.

November 24, 2005 @ 6:42 am | Comment

Thanks Dishuiguanyin. Okay, I need an abbreviation – DSGY.

I am about to drive to San Diego to do the fairly traditional dinner with my family – turkey (free range), stuffing, pie…yum!

November 24, 2005 @ 11:27 am | Comment

Can anybody confirm/deny a rumour that Chen Liangyu and Han Zheng were ousted and replaced?

November 24, 2005 @ 11:57 pm | Comment

Is Han Zheng that fat chick who sings all those corny songs about Tibet on CCTV?

November 25, 2005 @ 2:21 am | Comment

Oh, nevermind, that’s Han Hong.
I hope she gets ousted soon.

November 25, 2005 @ 2:24 am | Comment

Ousted. *snort*

It was roast pigeon and mashed potatoes for me. Not bad, all in all. A little get-together with a couple of western friends, and a really bad connection on a call to family back home.

November 25, 2005 @ 7:21 am | Comment

Please cut Han Hong some slack. ๐Ÿ™‚

Chinese lesbians have very few role models.

November 25, 2005 @ 9:01 am | Comment

Any Firefly fans here? My wife and I have been watching it (she is chinese, and i live in beijing), and it’s really great! the cast swear in mandarin alot, and there are alot of funny moments.

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November 25, 2005 @ 3:54 pm | Comment

the ‘New Scientist’ has followed up on yesterdays article, with another ‘tip of the iceberg’ story. the reaction is mixed on other forums. i somehow doubt ill see people falling dead on the street, but this does have the potential to severely disrupt life as we know it. i was in the beijing area when sars came through. it was quite awhile before things returned to normal. well, normal for china, anyway.

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November 25, 2005 @ 4:03 pm | Comment

You know, I firmly agree with this characterisation. Vietnam and thailand have had how many deaths, and China only has three? I refuse to believe that for some reason in China, where the farmers’ living situations are about the same as they are in Thailand and Vietnam, are somehow acting with more caution – Sichaunese were eating dead diseased pigs! These people are poor, and don’t have any real way of making their lives better, which I think translates into a poor ability to raise livestock in a manner which isolates any transmissable diseases away from the farmers.

So I think probably the stat is correct. China has like at least 10 times the population of Vietnam, and proabably about the same population density in the populated areas, and so the number of deaths should probably be proportionate. certainly higher than three.

It’s like martyn said a while ago – someone once said that an economy that was overheated grows above 10% a year – and voila! The Chinese economy grows at 9.x% for the next 10 years. Someone says that china needs to be more clear in their reporting, so they let report one here and there.

November 25, 2005 @ 6:50 pm | Comment

Since Thanksgiving’s officially over, I’m starting a new thread.

November 26, 2005 @ 2:49 am | Comment

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