Cheney fucked up

Anyone who denies that is blind to facts. Proof positive. He set himself up for the media assault, which was totally justified. Imagine if it had been Clinton (either one).

The Discussion: 16 Comments

An experienced rifelman (like myself) knows you should never shoot while you have a gerbil up your ass, as Dick often does. I mean the one that makes him grimace that way.

February 18, 2006 @ 10:23 pm | Comment

Ivan, Gerbils in your ass?

I think you should seriously reevaluate some of your hunting buddies and your activities in the woods.

Richard, I don’t think anyone would deny that the final blame falls on the man who pulled the trigger.

Sure, Harry should have annonced his presence, but Dick shouldn’t have been so trigger happy.

I don’t however, agree that the media is justified in making it a bigger story than it was.

February 19, 2006 @ 8:39 am | Comment

As I understand it, a hunter turning and finding a colleage in the line of fire is quite a comon form of accident.

I can’t believe how big much headline time this is getting.

February 19, 2006 @ 9:07 am | Comment

Clinton lied about Lewinsky. Democrats said it was a issue with his private life. Cheney didn’t give the Press Corp the story. Democrats act like it is a national security issue.

How are they similar?

February 19, 2006 @ 9:25 am | Comment

“The Lost Nomad” has a cartoon that says “I’still rather go hunting with Dick then driving with Ted”

February 19, 2006 @ 9:41 am | Comment

Oh yeah…Gordons NOT a Republican. I always seem to forget that for some reason.

February 19, 2006 @ 12:18 pm | Comment

Clinton lied about Lewinsky. Democrats said it was a issue with his private life. Cheney didn’t give the Press Corp the story. Democrats act like it is a national security issue.

How are they similar?

Good question. I see no similiarities.

Did Cheney lie to the American people about anything? No.

Did Cheney have any obligation whatsoever to inform the Press Corps about what happened? No.

When confronted with the story did Cheney lie and deny anything? No.

February 19, 2006 @ 12:55 pm | Comment

Ben Said:

Oh yeah…Gordons NOT a Republican. I always seem to forget that for some reason.

Was there a point to your comment? Didn’t think so.

February 19, 2006 @ 12:58 pm | Comment

Well, there have been many inconsistencies surrounding Cheney’s story, including drinking/not drinking, distance at which the man was shot, etc. And the not reporting it happened for 20 hours. And the victim apologizing for what was Cheney’s error.

But I think the incident represents in a concrete way the pattern of incompetence, negligence and secrecy that is the Bush administration’s hallmark. And though many people may have a hard time wrapping their minds around, say, NSA spying or torture at Gitmo, the Vice President shooting somebody in the face and heart is pretty easy to get.

February 19, 2006 @ 1:06 pm | Comment

Gordon, it’s just interesting what you will and won’t forgive in a politician. It seems to be completely based on party loyalty. This is just an observation.

February 19, 2006 @ 1:20 pm | Comment

Ben, on what basis do you make such an observation?

The only politicians that I’ve really made much commentary about on TPD has been limited for the most part to Bush and Clinton.

Hardly enough criteria to form an accurate hypothesis.

February 19, 2006 @ 1:53 pm | Comment

I guess I got the wrong impression. If I did I apologise for any offence taken.

February 19, 2006 @ 2:00 pm | Comment

Actually Gordon has the line on some great Cheney cartoons!

February 19, 2006 @ 2:29 pm | Comment

Other Lisa;
Cheneys ONLY legal obligation is to report the incident to law enforcement and since the locals were present what you mean is he didn’t report it to the press?!
And he didn’t shoot him in the heart, the pellet migrated from another area.
But never let the facts interfere with the pathological animus towards Bush and company…this is NOT to say they should be above criticisim but this hardly rises to the problems with Scooter Libby etc etc.

February 19, 2006 @ 5:19 pm | Comment

I don’t think anyone ever said this was as important as Plamegate or other national-security-related incidents. But considering how people got so riled up over a blow job, it’s interesting to see them downplay this. There were lies told, and that’s the only reason this issue didn’t die immediately. Did you read the linked article? This story isn’t so big because of the actual shooting, but only because it illustrates the secretive and unaccountable nature of our vice president. The way it was reported to the public is nothing short of bizarre (again, see the linked article, it’s all there). Now Cheney is refusing to say whether the fact he “had a beer” means that he had one beer or more. Why? Why the lack of candor? They have a choice: tell us what happened, or obfuscate. The former ends the conversation, the latter keeps the door open.

February 19, 2006 @ 5:34 pm | Comment

Huh? Lisa I have no idea what you’re talking about. ๐Ÿ˜›

February 19, 2006 @ 7:10 pm | Comment

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