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	<description>A peculiar hybrid of personal journal, dilettantish punditry, pseudo-philosophy and much more, from an Accidental Expat who has made his way from Hong Kong to Beijing to Taipei and finally back to Beijing for reasons that are still not entirely clear to him...</description>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2013/01/han-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-191988</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sending this thread to Thread Heaven. Thanks for participating, and special thanks to all who shared their knowledge of the Han horse.</description>
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		<title>By: ohwhatafeeling</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2013/01/han-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-191866</link>
		<dc:creator>ohwhatafeeling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW I&#039;m vehemently critical of my government and you don&#039;t have to hate your country to be critical of it. Recognise what&#039;s good about it. Recognise what&#039;s wrong with it. In a weird way I learnt that from China. 

I&#039;d love to rant about how much I hate how the government screws things up here and how so many Australians just roll over and take it but it&#039;s best not to get me started and this isn&#039;t Canberra duck.

And I can&#039;t say I really care about your opinion of me either but I do agree with your quote-

 “All those things you mentioned didn’t magically appear. They were products of political processes over time.” 

My quote was in agreeance with yours. People make those processes happen through making themselves heard.

Maybe if I was single I would probably still be in China. I made a lot of friends and good memories there and I did enjoy my job. But alas I&#039;m not, hence I&#039;m here in Ozlandia.

I&#039;m sorry I&#039;m not the guy you want to be angry with. He&#039;s living in Punchbowl on welfare with his second de facto wife and 7 kids. 

Seriously, chill out mate. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW I&#8217;m vehemently critical of my government and you don&#8217;t have to hate your country to be critical of it. Recognise what&#8217;s good about it. Recognise what&#8217;s wrong with it. In a weird way I learnt that from China. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to rant about how much I hate how the government screws things up here and how so many Australians just roll over and take it but it&#8217;s best not to get me started and this isn&#8217;t Canberra duck.</p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t say I really care about your opinion of me either but I do agree with your quote-</p>
<p> “All those things you mentioned didn’t magically appear. They were products of political processes over time.” </p>
<p>My quote was in agreeance with yours. People make those processes happen through making themselves heard.</p>
<p>Maybe if I was single I would probably still be in China. I made a lot of friends and good memories there and I did enjoy my job. But alas I&#8217;m not, hence I&#8217;m here in Ozlandia.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry I&#8217;m not the guy you want to be angry with. He&#8217;s living in Punchbowl on welfare with his second de facto wife and 7 kids. </p>
<p>Seriously, chill out mate. <img src='http://www.pekingduck.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ohwhatafeeling</title>
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		<dc:creator>ohwhatafeeling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. First personal attacks. Now threats. Over the internet? Was your intention to scare me?

Intelligent comments usually don&#039;t include these aforementioned debating techniques. As you know, that&#039;s usually bogan territory.

I like Australia more also for my kids + basic facts about Australia = unthinking nationalism? 

Here, I&#039;ll put it up again

&quot;I like Australia.&quot;

&quot;I lived in China for ten years and I enjoyed it. But when I compare the two, especially taking into consideration a family, Australia wins, no competition. That’s just my opinion.&quot; 
 
I&#039;ll reword it for you to make it easier&gt;

~ My wife and I lived in China for a long time, got to know it very well and I liked it, but now we have a family, we like living in Australia more, mainly for the sake of our kids. ~

There. You can lay that straw man down. He&#039;s tired and it&#039;s 49 degrees out there. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. First personal attacks. Now threats. Over the internet? Was your intention to scare me?</p>
<p>Intelligent comments usually don&#8217;t include these aforementioned debating techniques. As you know, that&#8217;s usually bogan territory.</p>
<p>I like Australia more also for my kids + basic facts about Australia = unthinking nationalism? </p>
<p>Here, I&#8217;ll put it up again</p>
<p>&#8220;I like Australia.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I lived in China for ten years and I enjoyed it. But when I compare the two, especially taking into consideration a family, Australia wins, no competition. That’s just my opinion.&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll reword it for you to make it easier&gt;</p>
<p>~ My wife and I lived in China for a long time, got to know it very well and I liked it, but now we have a family, we like living in Australia more, mainly for the sake of our kids. ~</p>
<p>There. You can lay that straw man down. He&#8217;s tired and it&#8217;s 49 degrees out there. <img src='http://www.pekingduck.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: King Tubby</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2013/01/han-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-191860</link>
		<dc:creator>King Tubby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mr Toyota slogan.

I wrote. &quot;All those things you mentioned didn’t magically appear. They were products of political processes over time&quot;.

Yes, people do get the government they deserve.

We probably have very close postcodes.

However, if you drive your unthinking rah rah nationalism through my suburb, I will set the dogs on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mr Toyota slogan.</p>
<p>I wrote. &#8220;All those things you mentioned didn’t magically appear. They were products of political processes over time&#8221;.</p>
<p>Yes, people do get the government they deserve.</p>
<p>We probably have very close postcodes.</p>
<p>However, if you drive your unthinking rah rah nationalism through my suburb, I will set the dogs on you.</p>
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		<title>By: Xilin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xilin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....Were going on else where around the world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..Were going on else where around the world?</p>
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		<title>By: Xilin</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2013/01/han-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-191844</link>
		<dc:creator>Xilin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CM, 

&#039;I highly doubt this is true&#039;

I have referred to the data on intentional homicide several times.  Check out the wiki page (list of countries by intentional homicide rate). The average rates for China and western Europe are the same (1.0). 

By &#039;nonsense&#039; do you refute the fact that bloody wars were going on in China when they</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CM, </p>
<p>&#8216;I highly doubt this is true&#8217;</p>
<p>I have referred to the data on intentional homicide several times.  Check out the wiki page (list of countries by intentional homicide rate). The average rates for China and western Europe are the same (1.0). </p>
<p>By &#8216;nonsense&#8217; do you refute the fact that bloody wars were going on in China when they</p>
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		<title>By: ohwhatafeeling</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2013/01/han-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-191829</link>
		<dc:creator>ohwhatafeeling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That drawing is quite pretty.

I love the immediacy and lively feeling of Chinese art. A lot of traditional western art I&#039;ve seen lacks that sort of feeling. 

Like how a Chinese character can&#039;t be partially rubbed out or edited. It must be written from start to finish in one movement, no editing. Like a live music show. You&#039;ll only ever get one like it. 

The fact it&#039;s on a napkin demonstrates that essence really well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That drawing is quite pretty.</p>
<p>I love the immediacy and lively feeling of Chinese art. A lot of traditional western art I&#8217;ve seen lacks that sort of feeling. </p>
<p>Like how a Chinese character can&#8217;t be partially rubbed out or edited. It must be written from start to finish in one movement, no editing. Like a live music show. You&#8217;ll only ever get one like it. </p>
<p>The fact it&#8217;s on a napkin demonstrates that essence really well.</p>
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		<title>By: ohwhatafeeling</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2013/01/han-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-191827</link>
		<dc:creator>ohwhatafeeling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cookie monster and King tubby

Wow. Settle pettle. 

I said I live in a Australia and I like Australia. I enjoy it more than China.

Didn&#039;t know that offended you so much.

Sorry to inform you my hardworking bloggers but I can&#039;t fit into your stereotypes and prejudices but points for imagination. 
 
Short version of king tubby and cookie monster replies:

Americans are smug, Australians are ignorant bogans and white males in Asia are entitled twats with god complexes.

That&#039;s why I can&#039;t take you guys seriously.

&quot;People get the governments they deserve&quot; - Thomas Jefferson

Richard - Pardon the humour but the article was tongue in cheek. Just wanted to show the end of that slippery slope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cookie monster and King tubby</p>
<p>Wow. Settle pettle. </p>
<p>I said I live in a Australia and I like Australia. I enjoy it more than China.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t know that offended you so much.</p>
<p>Sorry to inform you my hardworking bloggers but I can&#8217;t fit into your stereotypes and prejudices but points for imagination. </p>
<p>Short version of king tubby and cookie monster replies:</p>
<p>Americans are smug, Australians are ignorant bogans and white males in Asia are entitled twats with god complexes.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I can&#8217;t take you guys seriously.</p>
<p>&#8220;People get the governments they deserve&#8221; &#8211; Thomas Jefferson</p>
<p>Richard &#8211; Pardon the humour but the article was tongue in cheek. Just wanted to show the end of that slippery slope.</p>
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		<title>By: Cookie Monster</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2013/01/han-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-191818</link>
		<dc:creator>Cookie Monster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 07:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xilin
&lt;i&gt;@CM, good to see you are no longer claiming that western Europeans are more predisposed to murder than the Chinese.&lt;/i&gt;

Nope. They are certainly more predisposed to crime. You meant to say &quot;some Western European countries have lower homicide rates than China&quot;. I highly doubt this is true of a weighted average but I&#039;ll let you off the hook.

&lt;i&gt;The historical record just shows, obviously, that as bloody wars were going on else where around the world, they were also going on in China. I think we are done.&lt;/i&gt;

See jxie&#039;s post on why this statement is nonsense. Yes, you are done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xilin<br />
<i>@CM, good to see you are no longer claiming that western Europeans are more predisposed to murder than the Chinese.</i></p>
<p>Nope. They are certainly more predisposed to crime. You meant to say &#8220;some Western European countries have lower homicide rates than China&#8221;. I highly doubt this is true of a weighted average but I&#8217;ll let you off the hook.</p>
<p><i>The historical record just shows, obviously, that as bloody wars were going on else where around the world, they were also going on in China. I think we are done.</i></p>
<p>See jxie&#8217;s post on why this statement is nonsense. Yes, you are done.</p>
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		<title>By: Xilin</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2013/01/han-horse/comment-page-2/#comment-191805</link>
		<dc:creator>Xilin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jxie, I appreciate that the figures can be way off. That wiki list is actually ranked according to the lowest estimate. Cookie was claiming that the Chinese are less inclined to murder. The historical record does not support this. 

@CM, good to see you are no longer claiming that western Europeans are  more predisposed to murder than the Chinese. 
The historical record just shows, obviously, that as bloody wars were going on else where around the world, they were also going on in China. I think we are done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jxie, I appreciate that the figures can be way off. That wiki list is actually ranked according to the lowest estimate. Cookie was claiming that the Chinese are less inclined to murder. The historical record does not support this. </p>
<p>@CM, good to see you are no longer claiming that western Europeans are  more predisposed to murder than the Chinese.<br />
The historical record just shows, obviously, that as bloody wars were going on else where around the world, they were also going on in China. I think we are done.</p>
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