I was going to leave it to Handler to deal with the Google search bit, since that was his discussion. But yeah, resorting to google hits as “proof” is pretty low-rent and intellectually-challenged. Next he’ll tell us that wikipedia is the world authority on …well…everything.

My prior statement was that “the jury is still out whether it (SARS) was biological warfare instigated by the West”. You said there is no evidence. I pointed out that there are 165,000 links in response to a Google Search of the term “SARS Biological Warfare”. That is all the evidence I need (or anyone would need) for the assertion that “the jury is still out” on the issue – meaning that there is dispute over whether the assertion is true or can be proved.

Darling, there are nearly nine MILLION google searches for whether there really are unicorns. Does that mean “the jury is still out on whether unicorns exist”? Come on, 9 million searches — people still haven’t made up their minds, so the jury is still out? Shitheaded google searches meet the criteria for “evidence”? Brilliant. A very scientific way to measure whether something is true or not, or whether people are whacky.

Guys, is there really any point arguing with an idiot who would charge SARS was some Western-concocted biological weapon or whatever? Really, zhuzhu has shown us quite clearly what he is all about. How many neurons do we want to burn arguing with someone who is irrational, deluded, brainwashed and clearly out to take over the threads, drive everyone crazy and scare away legitimate traffic?

Yes, China is rising. In spite of the CCP, perhaps, but certainly not because of it. Rules of logic dictate that if you make the argument asserting the CCP as the causal element of China’s rise, then the burden is on you to prove it. And you can’t. You are either too stupid to recognize that basic logic progression, or are too indoctrinated to be able to accept it. Either way, not my problem. You could groan on all day, and it won’t change that logic hole in which you find yourself. Wise men say that when you find yourself in a hole, you should stop digging. We shall see how much wisdom you have, but I’m not hopeful.

Since you can’t offer proof of your position, all you’ve got is regurgitation of what you’ve been told. We’ve already established earlier that free-will and independent thought were also beyond your grasp. So what we get is a visual of all the kool-aid you’ve been drinking…in reverse. Not a pretty sight, but you do what you gotta do.

You seem forever focused solely on the US. Yes, the US version of democracy is currently in deadlock. But there are many other iterations of democracy that are not…as we speak. And there is no stipulation that Chinese people utilize the US system. It’s not as though democracy is attained IFF (logic terminology, do you know it?) you have the US system. Yet that is constantly the straw-man you guys fixate upon. My position is that Chinese people should determine their political future for themselves. Not sure how that bodes ill-will for Chinese people. Your position is CCP forever, which is just juvenile ass-kissing writ large.

The Chicoms are so great, there’s really nothing to be afraid of. They can handle all of these things. People will still be kissing their feet. No one would ever want anything else!

I’ve been reading a few of your comments until I got entirely too bored to follow any more.

But let me ask you just one question: If the CCP is so great, surely they can allow opposition political parties at any time, and everyone will still love them, right? Surely they can end censorship of the media at any time, because they are so great, and the truth will just shine through and everyone will still love them, right? And while they’re at it, since the ‘Chicoms’, as you like to call them, are the world’s greatest, they could also have multi-party elections, since they are so perfect, that hardly anyone at all would ever vote for anyone else, isn’t it? Liu Xiaobo has no need to be in jail because no one would ever listen to him anyway.

So I suggest you march on over to the Party HQ and tell them about how great they are, and that there’s no need to censor, suppress, arrest! I suspect they will wholeheartedly agree.

Well, at least the tag works. You clearly do need more and are too deranged to reign yourself in. Your final argument is that we cannot be sure “The West” didn’t do it because you can find links on google pertaining to any number of crackpot theories. Spare us your idiocy. The fact is there is no jury, not even a metaphorical one, because there are not even suffcient scraps of evidence for a metaphorical trial. There are only a small number of quacks whispering among themselves.

What would be made of your argument in China in light of the CCP’s war on rumors?

Why are you dwelling on such triviality that is irrelevant to the argument here: whether democracy or one-party meritocracy is better for China?

My prior statement was that “the jury is still out whether it (SARS) was biological warfare instigated by the West”. You said there is no evidence. I pointed out that there are 165,000 links in response to a Google Search of the term “SARS Biological Warfare”. That is all the evidence I need (or anyone would need) for the assertion that “the jury is still out” on the issue – meaning that there is dispute over whether the assertion is true or can be proved.

I can respect fellow debaters who comes back with facts and figures and alternative interpretations of data. I do not appreciate the need to waste time with nitpickers.

My positions are well documented and well reasoned. I do not call you an apologist or a numb skull. Your posts speak for themselves.

As we speak, China rises, all thanks to the CPC’s leadership. To suggest that adopting the useless deadlock of democracy can improve upon China’s successes, is:

1. Not supported by evidence;
2. Done with illwill against the Chinese people.

Yes, I fully understand that the West is totally paranoid that there is a BETTER system than democracy when what you want is economic prosperity and peace. But don’t be desperate, pulling is always better than pushing. If you think or assert that democracy is so hot, DEMONSTRATE its superiority by delivering the goods – by improving the lives and living standards of your own citizens, by creating the millions of new jobs, by making wealth distribution more fair so that your Gini’s index is not so embarrassing, and show the world that there is actually substance behind all that bragging. Y’see China is doing exactly that – demonstrating the superiority of the system and reforms, and never being so self-satisfied that Beijing would deem it necessary to push others to adopt the one party meritocracy system (even though it is objectively the best performing in the world today).