Comments on: NY Times blocked in China as it reveals Wen Jiabao’s obscene family wealth

By: Richard

Richard — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:26:34 +0000

Guys, I’m closing this thread — please post to the new Wen Jiabao thread two posts up. Thanks.

By: t_co

t_co — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:23:50 +0000

I’ve come to regard Peter Lee as a sort of “thinking man’s fenqing” — the logic always collapses in the end, but he makes brave and creative efforts to uphold the party line and delivers it in pretty solid prose and while seeming logical.

Please, let’s not resort to even more ad hominems now, shall we?

By: slim

slim — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:03:33 +0000

@66. I’ve come to regard Peter Lee as a sort of “thinking man’s fenqing” — the logic always collapses in the end, but he makes brave and creative efforts to uphold the party line and delivers it in pretty solid prose and while seeming logical.

By: FOARP

FOARP — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:16:44 +0000

Please. The Lee article is a masterpiece of hand-waving (only the 2.2 Billion in Ping An really matters, apparently), blame-spreading (it’s really Duan’s fault, so the Wens aren’t really to blame), and false equivalence (people on the New York and London stock exchanges engage in hiding the ball, so it doesn’t matter that the family of the guy running a country is doing it). Only a fenqing could try this kind of nonsense and expect people to be convinced by it.

By: Jason

Jason — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:51:56 +0000

Insider Trading…Chinese style by Peter Lee

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/NJ31Ad02.html

By: Gil (AKA FOARP)

Gil (AKA FOARP) — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 06:43:44 +0000

@theobserver – If that’s true,then I guess the Wen family won’t have any problems with their law suit, will they? Especially given that the NYT’s information appears to be publicly available data from Chinese regulatory bodies.

By: theobserver

theobserver — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:56:54 +0000

This nytimes report seems to be about as credible as that “devastating document” that revealed Obama was not a US citizen.

By: Handler

Handler — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 00:31:15 +0000

“On Monday afternoon, meanwhile, it emerged that large chunks of the People’s Daily article on The New York Times had been plagiarised from a variety of online sources. Several sections appeared to have been lifted word-for-word from China News Agency stories while other parts had been copied from previous articles in the People’s Daily itself.”

“The Communist party of China and the government and people will eliminate any disruptions and firmly follow the path of socialism with Chinese characteristics.”

Gawd. Can’t we just admit we are dealing with psychopaths?

The Barboza response is illuminating. Has the rumored reception of a “thick bundle of documents” on Wen even been verified by any news agency? I’d like to think Chinese counter-intelligence is more capable than this.

By: Mike Goldthorpe

Mike Goldthorpe — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:23:58 +0000

Gets funnier
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9640256/Chinas-Peoples-Daily-launches-attack-on-The-New-York-Times.html

By: Mike Goldthorpe

Mike Goldthorpe — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:39:50 +0000

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/29/david-barboza-answers-reader-questions-on-reporting-in-china/?ref=world

Thought this might be pertinent here…