Comments on: How to climb the greasy ladder to the top of the CCP http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/10/how-to-climb-the-greasy-ladder-to-the-top-of-the-ccp/ A peculiar hybrid of personal journal, dilettantish punditry, pseudo-philosophy and much more, from an Accidental Expat who has made his way from Hong Kong to Beijing to Taipei and finally back to Beijing for reasons that are still not entirely clear to him... Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:50:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: FOARP http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/10/how-to-climb-the-greasy-ladder-to-the-top-of-the-ccp/comment-page-1/#comment-186830 FOARP Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:58:54 +0000 http://www.pekingduck.org/?p=10972#comment-186830 @t_co - Bo Xilai already done-did that. How did that work out? @t_co – Bo Xilai already done-did that. How did that work out?

]]> By: Xilin http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/10/how-to-climb-the-greasy-ladder-to-the-top-of-the-ccp/comment-page-1/#comment-186827 Xilin Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:25:44 +0000 http://www.pekingduck.org/?p=10972#comment-186827 Clock, '1/10 of the Chinese population are a member of the CCP bureacracy' Gobshite. Calculate party membership as a percentage of population: 6% You need to brush up on your fractions. Clock,

’1/10 of the Chinese population are a member of the CCP bureacracy’

Gobshite.

Calculate party membership as a percentage of population:

6%

You need to brush up on your fractions.

]]> By: t_co http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/10/how-to-climb-the-greasy-ladder-to-the-top-of-the-ccp/comment-page-1/#comment-186824 t_co Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:41:49 +0000 http://www.pekingduck.org/?p=10972#comment-186824 FYI, one of the guys I was playing cards with the other day said his uncle (in the Central Committee) was joking about bugging all subsidiary CCP officials as a way to eradicate corruption FYI, one of the guys I was playing cards with the other day said his uncle (in the Central Committee) was joking about bugging all subsidiary CCP officials as a way to eradicate corruption

]]> By: Handler http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/10/how-to-climb-the-greasy-ladder-to-the-top-of-the-ccp/comment-page-1/#comment-186815 Handler Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:52:44 +0000 http://www.pekingduck.org/?p=10972#comment-186815 1) Demand that he/she completes the following sentence: "党的最高理想和最终目标是实现____________________" 2) No. It is a series of cosmetic procedures that merely leave one looking and acting like Michael Jackson. 3) Sort of. It is ruled by exteriors that have the ability to internalize themselves only to other exteriors. They form a perfectly inverted model of communication. 1) Demand that he/she completes the following sentence: “党的最高理想和最终目标是实现____________________”
2) No. It is a series of cosmetic procedures that merely leave one looking and acting like Michael Jackson.
3) Sort of. It is ruled by exteriors that have the ability to internalize themselves only to other exteriors. They form a perfectly inverted model of communication.

]]> By: S.K. Cheung http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/10/how-to-climb-the-greasy-ladder-to-the-top-of-the-ccp/comment-page-1/#comment-186814 S.K. Cheung Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:50:41 +0000 http://www.pekingduck.org/?p=10972#comment-186814 "I’d rather be a rat than a pig." ---LOL. That would be a most excellent answer to the question: as a human, would you rather be a rat or a pig? Of course, no one asked that question, so it is rather funny that you offered it up anyway. Most humans I know wouldn't even contemplate such a question, so it's probably best that I leave you to your profound thoughts. I would surmise that you would make an excellent rat...such as it were. Sure, 80 to 100 million Chinese are nominally CCP members...but how many of them have any realistic (or heck, even wildly schizophrenically delusional) hope of reaching the top rungs, like those good rats like Hu and Xi that you seem to admire so dearly? Besides, as Mike and Gil point out, many people join just cuz it serves them well wrt the guanxi corruption game that one must play. Does it make them less Chinese? Of course not. But the problem lies in the fact that it is in fact so Chinese to have to do something like join the CCP in order to attain personal advancement even if your personal goal is non-political altogether. However, I doubt you have the capacity to grasp that concept. “I’d rather be a rat than a pig.”
—LOL. That would be a most excellent answer to the question: as a human, would you rather be a rat or a pig? Of course, no one asked that question, so it is rather funny that you offered it up anyway. Most humans I know wouldn’t even contemplate such a question, so it’s probably best that I leave you to your profound thoughts. I would surmise that you would make an excellent rat…such as it were.

Sure, 80 to 100 million Chinese are nominally CCP members…but how many of them have any realistic (or heck, even wildly schizophrenically delusional) hope of reaching the top rungs, like those good rats like Hu and Xi that you seem to admire so dearly? Besides, as Mike and Gil point out, many people join just cuz it serves them well wrt the guanxi corruption game that one must play. Does it make them less Chinese? Of course not. But the problem lies in the fact that it is in fact so Chinese to have to do something like join the CCP in order to attain personal advancement even if your personal goal is non-political altogether. However, I doubt you have the capacity to grasp that concept.

]]> By: Gil (AKA FOARP) http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/10/how-to-climb-the-greasy-ladder-to-the-top-of-the-ccp/comment-page-1/#comment-186812 Gil (AKA FOARP) Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:16:19 +0000 http://www.pekingduck.org/?p=10972#comment-186812 Ex-girlfriend was a CCP member from a long line (well, as long as is possible) of CCP members, and was the graduate of a military school. Didn't believe a single word of it. Gave speeches she admitted to being total garbage about approved topics like Lei Feng, but said it was OK because no-one was really listening to her. @Mike - Doesn't surprise me. Macau is one of the biggest centres for laundering the corrupt earnings of mainland officials. Ex-girlfriend was a CCP member from a long line (well, as long as is possible) of CCP members, and was the graduate of a military school. Didn’t believe a single word of it. Gave speeches she admitted to being total garbage about approved topics like Lei Feng, but said it was OK because no-one was really listening to her.

@Mike – Doesn’t surprise me. Macau is one of the biggest centres for laundering the corrupt earnings of mainland officials.

]]> By: Mike Goldthorpe http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/10/how-to-climb-the-greasy-ladder-to-the-top-of-the-ccp/comment-page-1/#comment-186798 Mike Goldthorpe Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:04:11 +0000 http://www.pekingduck.org/?p=10972#comment-186798 "Is CCP today ruled by aliens distinctly different from the ‘Chinese’?" Yes, I'd wager. My sister in law is a party member. Joined for the guanxi - she's as far away from being a Communist as anyone I've ever met. Not many Communists would think of spending NZ$800 in a casino without even thinking about it..... “Is CCP today ruled by aliens distinctly different from the ‘Chinese’?”
Yes, I’d wager.
My sister in law is a party member. Joined for the guanxi – she’s as far away from being a Communist as anyone I’ve ever met. Not many Communists would think of spending NZ$800 in a casino without even thinking about it…..

]]> By: The Clock http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/10/how-to-climb-the-greasy-ladder-to-the-top-of-the-ccp/comment-page-1/#comment-186775 The Clock Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:59:31 +0000 http://www.pekingduck.org/?p=10972#comment-186775 Btw, 1/10 of the Chinese population are a member of hte CCP bureacracy, this includes fathers, mothers, uncles, aunts of ordinary Chinese citizens that you claim to love. How do you distinguish a CCP rat from an ordinary Chinese person? Is joining the CCP a genetic procedure that turns you into a non-Chinese. Is CCP today ruled by aliens distinctly different from the 'Chinese'? Btw, 1/10 of the Chinese population are a member of hte CCP bureacracy, this includes fathers, mothers, uncles, aunts of ordinary Chinese citizens that you claim to love. How do you distinguish a CCP rat from an ordinary Chinese person? Is joining the CCP a genetic procedure that turns you into a non-Chinese. Is CCP today ruled by aliens distinctly different from the ‘Chinese’?

]]> By: The Clock http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/10/how-to-climb-the-greasy-ladder-to-the-top-of-the-ccp/comment-page-1/#comment-186773 The Clock Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:56:36 +0000 http://www.pekingduck.org/?p=10972#comment-186773 Rat is an intelligent animal, the master of survival. I'd rather be a rat than a pig. Rat is an intelligent animal, the master of survival. I’d rather be a rat than a pig.

]]> By: S.K. Cheung http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/10/how-to-climb-the-greasy-ladder-to-the-top-of-the-ccp/comment-page-1/#comment-186741 S.K. Cheung Wed, 24 Oct 2012 05:51:46 +0000 http://www.pekingduck.org/?p=10972#comment-186741 To the dunce clock, the typical bumbling Chinese person wouldn't survive well in the rat-infested confines of the CCP either. So maybe the problem isn't with the typical Chinese person or westerner, but with the rat-infestation of the CCP itself. It's telling that you find the biggest rats to be admirable. To the dunce clock,
the typical bumbling Chinese person wouldn’t survive well in the rat-infested confines of the CCP either. So maybe the problem isn’t with the typical Chinese person or westerner, but with the rat-infestation of the CCP itself.

It’s telling that you find the biggest rats to be admirable.

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