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	<title>Comments on: The Ferrari Scandal</title>
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	<description>A peculiar hybrid of personal journal, dilettantish punditry, pseudo-philosophy and much more, from an Accidental Expat who has made his way from Hong Kong to Beijing to Taipei and finally back to Beijing for reasons that are still not entirely clear to him...</description>
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		<title>By: S.K. Cheung</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/09/the-ferrari-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-182206</link>
		<dc:creator>S.K. Cheung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 16:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the broadest and most generic sense, Jing and Liu Xiaobo might be similar...in that they both don&#039;t approve of China under the CCP as it is currently constituted/administered.  However, the specifics of their disapproval, and the solutions they offer, are night and day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the broadest and most generic sense, Jing and Liu Xiaobo might be similar&#8230;in that they both don&#8217;t approve of China under the CCP as it is currently constituted/administered.  However, the specifics of their disapproval, and the solutions they offer, are night and day.</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/09/the-ferrari-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-182195</link>
		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 08:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How the heck did we get from Jing(o) the Han tribal warrior to Liu Xiaobo, the mild-mannered constitutionalist? 

China as currently constituted and with its present behaviour will NEVER win acceptance as the Asian regional hegemon -- unless perhaps it tries to do it the 1931-45 Japanese way. Even its allies and clients like North Korea and Cambodia don&#039;t trust Beijing very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How the heck did we get from Jing(o) the Han tribal warrior to Liu Xiaobo, the mild-mannered constitutionalist? </p>
<p>China as currently constituted and with its present behaviour will NEVER win acceptance as the Asian regional hegemon &#8212; unless perhaps it tries to do it the 1931-45 Japanese way. Even its allies and clients like North Korea and Cambodia don&#8217;t trust Beijing very much.</p>
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		<title>By: justrecently</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/09/the-ferrari-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-182187</link>
		<dc:creator>justrecently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 05:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the CCP&#039;s fascination with &quot;stability&quot; reveals a particular instability, &lt;b&gt;SK&lt;/b&gt;. The dangerous thing is that economic growth is the &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; thing that &quot;legitimizes&quot; the CCP. Everything else is fear. That&#039;s pretty unstable in itself. 

Beijing&#039;s sermons about &quot;stability&quot; remind me of an alcoholic preaching the virtues of teetotalism. If there was stability, there&#039;d be no need to keep talking about it. An almighty alcoholic has no time for withdrawal treatment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the CCP&#8217;s fascination with &#8220;stability&#8221; reveals a particular instability, <b>SK</b>. The dangerous thing is that economic growth is the <i>only</i> thing that &#8220;legitimizes&#8221; the CCP. Everything else is fear. That&#8217;s pretty unstable in itself. </p>
<p>Beijing&#8217;s sermons about &#8220;stability&#8221; remind me of an alcoholic preaching the virtues of teetotalism. If there was stability, there&#8217;d be no need to keep talking about it. An almighty alcoholic has no time for withdrawal treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: S.K. Cheung</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/09/the-ferrari-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-182178</link>
		<dc:creator>S.K. Cheung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To JR #36,
agreed.  The CCP&#039;s fascination with &quot;stability&quot; is self-serving, when she positions herself as the only possible means to achieving stability in CHina.  In fact, what she provides is enforced stability, which isn&#039;t actually stability at all.  So &quot;stability&quot; in CCP parlance is a circular discussion.

On the other hand, as you submit, stability predicated on economic progress is real, and is &quot;true for any society&quot;.  So what CHina needs to keep xenophobic tendencies at bay is continued economic progress, and she doesn&#039;t need the CCP for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To JR #36,<br />
agreed.  The CCP&#8217;s fascination with &#8220;stability&#8221; is self-serving, when she positions herself as the only possible means to achieving stability in CHina.  In fact, what she provides is enforced stability, which isn&#8217;t actually stability at all.  So &#8220;stability&#8221; in CCP parlance is a circular discussion.</p>
<p>On the other hand, as you submit, stability predicated on economic progress is real, and is &#8220;true for any society&#8221;.  So what CHina needs to keep xenophobic tendencies at bay is continued economic progress, and she doesn&#8217;t need the CCP for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Gil (AKA FOARP)</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/09/the-ferrari-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-182167</link>
		<dc:creator>Gil (AKA FOARP)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@KT - If you fancy some more, I&#039;m still bitter about the Bodyline tour :)

But yeah, no place for that garbage, hence everyone putting Jing down as a nutter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@KT &#8211; If you fancy some more, I&#8217;m still bitter about the Bodyline tour <img src='http://www.pekingduck.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But yeah, no place for that garbage, hence everyone putting Jing down as a nutter.</p>
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		<title>By: King Tubby</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/09/the-ferrari-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-182165</link>
		<dc:creator>King Tubby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been racially vilified.....appalling. I thought that sort of thing only took place on CS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been racially vilified&#8230;..appalling. I thought that sort of thing only took place on CS.</p>
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		<title>By: justrecently</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/09/the-ferrari-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-182152</link>
		<dc:creator>justrecently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Though I would agree with t-co in the sense that, when times are tough, it’s easy for the racist/xenophobic scape-goating mentality to take hold.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s true for any society, &lt;b&gt;SK&lt;/b&gt;. The CCP&#039;s mantra is that Chinese society were more &quot;vulnerable&quot; for all kinds of temptations, while it is &lt;i&gt;them&lt;/i&gt; who continue to create the conditions for just that calamity. That&#039;s handy, isn&#039;t it? Stirr up nationalism, then turn to the outside world, point at the mob (of an unknown size) behind you, and say: &quot;Look at those dangerous fools! They need a strong hand! Help us to keep them down, rather than empowering them!&quot;

With that approach - which isn&#039;t only corrupt, but also unsustainable in the long run -, it is also easy to equate people like Jing and Liu Xiaobo. I call that moral disorientation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Though I would agree with t-co in the sense that, when times are tough, it’s easy for the racist/xenophobic scape-goating mentality to take hold.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s true for any society, <b>SK</b>. The CCP&#8217;s mantra is that Chinese society were more &#8220;vulnerable&#8221; for all kinds of temptations, while it is <i>them</i> who continue to create the conditions for just that calamity. That&#8217;s handy, isn&#8217;t it? Stirr up nationalism, then turn to the outside world, point at the mob (of an unknown size) behind you, and say: &#8220;Look at those dangerous fools! They need a strong hand! Help us to keep them down, rather than empowering them!&#8221;</p>
<p>With that approach &#8211; which isn&#8217;t only corrupt, but also unsustainable in the long run -, it is also easy to equate people like Jing and Liu Xiaobo. I call that moral disorientation.</p>
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		<title>By: S.K. Cheung</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/09/the-ferrari-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-182150</link>
		<dc:creator>S.K. Cheung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Jing even live in China?  If not, he has no role in any consensus anyhow, so I wouldn&#039;t worry too much about that.  And if the end-product is a vision of a racially pure Han country even if it is penniless, I can&#039;t imagine people flocking to that.

Though I would agree with t-co in the sense that, when times are tough, it&#039;s easy for the racist/xenophobic scape-goating mentality to take hold.  In that sense, Jing might be an anonymous manifestation of Yang Rui, but several orders of magnitude nuttier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Jing even live in China?  If not, he has no role in any consensus anyhow, so I wouldn&#8217;t worry too much about that.  And if the end-product is a vision of a racially pure Han country even if it is penniless, I can&#8217;t imagine people flocking to that.</p>
<p>Though I would agree with t-co in the sense that, when times are tough, it&#8217;s easy for the racist/xenophobic scape-goating mentality to take hold.  In that sense, Jing might be an anonymous manifestation of Yang Rui, but several orders of magnitude nuttier.</p>
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		<title>By: FOARP</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/09/the-ferrari-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-182143</link>
		<dc:creator>FOARP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think they&#039;re the same guy either, but these conversations always draw him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re the same guy either, but these conversations always draw him.</p>
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		<title>By: justrecently</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/09/the-ferrari-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-182142</link>
		<dc:creator>justrecently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to avoid misunderstandings: I don&#039;t think that &lt;b&gt;t_co&lt;/b&gt; is actually MW. His ideas just seem to be somewhat closer to MW&#039;s than I first thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to avoid misunderstandings: I don&#8217;t think that <b>t_co</b> is actually MW. His ideas just seem to be somewhat closer to MW&#8217;s than I first thought.</p>
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