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	<title>Comments on: Public Opinion in China Does Not Reflect the Public</title>
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		<title>By: alanc230</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/06/public-opinion-in-china-does-not-reflect-the-public/comment-page-1/#comment-176523</link>
		<dc:creator>alanc230</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, instead of a Potemkin village, the Chinese government wants to create an entire Potemkin society. Look at all the happy, smiling people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, instead of a Potemkin village, the Chinese government wants to create an entire Potemkin society. Look at all the happy, smiling people.</p>
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		<title>By: t_co</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/06/public-opinion-in-china-does-not-reflect-the-public/comment-page-1/#comment-176182</link>
		<dc:creator>t_co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 02:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The morals of foreigners in Korea has become a serious cultural issue&quot;

&quot;Foreigners give you HIV and make you pregnant, and then leave&quot;

wow. holy shit this is just terrible</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The morals of foreigners in Korea has become a serious cultural issue&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Foreigners give you HIV and make you pregnant, and then leave&#8221;</p>
<p>wow. holy shit this is just terrible</p>
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		<title>By: t_co</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/06/public-opinion-in-china-does-not-reflect-the-public/comment-page-1/#comment-176181</link>
		<dc:creator>t_co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 02:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=nsNHYYrvMrk#!

Speaking of anti-foreigner bias, I should add that what Yang Rui said pales in comparison to a &lt;i&gt;full-fledged TV show on what terrible people foreign men are&lt;/i&gt;.

I know we don&#039;t like to pull equivalency here, but this shit is just so egregious it deserves mention.  The fact that this was produced by MBC, Korea&#039;s largest broadcasting network, as a prime-time special means that unlike the rants of one or two people, this is what the system itself thinks.  That&#039;s extremely disturbing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&#038;v=nsNHYYrvMrk#" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&#038;v=nsNHYYrvMrk#</a>!</p>
<p>Speaking of anti-foreigner bias, I should add that what Yang Rui said pales in comparison to a <i>full-fledged TV show on what terrible people foreign men are</i>.</p>
<p>I know we don&#8217;t like to pull equivalency here, but this shit is just so egregious it deserves mention.  The fact that this was produced by MBC, Korea&#8217;s largest broadcasting network, as a prime-time special means that unlike the rants of one or two people, this is what the system itself thinks.  That&#8217;s extremely disturbing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ra</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/06/public-opinion-in-china-does-not-reflect-the-public/comment-page-1/#comment-176180</link>
		<dc:creator>Ra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2012 00:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just....plain....scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just&#8230;.plain&#8230;.scary.</p>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/06/public-opinion-in-china-does-not-reflect-the-public/comment-page-1/#comment-176171</link>
		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 09:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of a sketch by Rory Bremner many years ago when an ex-minister (Frank Dobson) was standing as the Labour Party&#039;s candidate for mayor of London. He was appearing on &quot;Who wants to be a London mayor&quot;. Dobson was asked who was going to win the election. He asked the audience, which voted for Ken Livingstone. Dobson then asked if he could change the audience.

Just goes to show what a pathetic bag of shit the Global Times is. It&#039;s always the case that more people complain than applaud in public, even if the majority is content. Governments just have to live with it. You can&#039;t tell people with complaints to shut up because it&#039;s spoiling the atmosphere. Maybe if the CCP took its finger out over issues like rule of law, corruption, income disparity, lack of public services, etc there might be less people complaining without the need to silence them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of a sketch by Rory Bremner many years ago when an ex-minister (Frank Dobson) was standing as the Labour Party&#8217;s candidate for mayor of London. He was appearing on &#8220;Who wants to be a London mayor&#8221;. Dobson was asked who was going to win the election. He asked the audience, which voted for Ken Livingstone. Dobson then asked if he could change the audience.</p>
<p>Just goes to show what a pathetic bag of shit the Global Times is. It&#8217;s always the case that more people complain than applaud in public, even if the majority is content. Governments just have to live with it. You can&#8217;t tell people with complaints to shut up because it&#8217;s spoiling the atmosphere. Maybe if the CCP took its finger out over issues like rule of law, corruption, income disparity, lack of public services, etc there might be less people complaining without the need to silence them.</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/06/public-opinion-in-china-does-not-reflect-the-public/comment-page-1/#comment-176165</link>
		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 03:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry. Drinking hipster ales. Let&#039;s PUT ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry. Drinking hipster ales. Let&#8217;s PUT &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/06/public-opinion-in-china-does-not-reflect-the-public/comment-page-1/#comment-176164</link>
		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 03:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s visiting scholars Chen Guangcheng and Jeremiah Jenne on this panel of discourse-leading wise men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s visiting scholars Chen Guangcheng and Jeremiah Jenne on this panel of discourse-leading wise men.</p>
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		<title>By: S.K. Cheung</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/06/public-opinion-in-china-does-not-reflect-the-public/comment-page-1/#comment-176163</link>
		<dc:creator>S.K. Cheung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 03:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the CCP and relevant organs speak of &quot;truth&quot; and &quot;facts&quot;, it&#039;s always difficult to suppress laughter.  Although it&#039;s interesting that they suggest delegating the &quot;fact rescue&quot; mission to scholars, rather than relying on the CCP&#039;s own tried-and-true fact-generation mechanism, which may not be very effective but certainly tries very hard.  Perhaps these &quot;scholars&quot; are to lend these new &quot;facts&quot; an air of legitimacy that the old-fashioned CCP methods couldn&#039;t hope to project or obtain.

That being said, I do agree that the nature of internet discourse skews the discussion towards an over-representation of discontent.  There&#039;s an inherent selection and responder bias in those who go online and choose to comment, such that it is not scientifically reliable as a gauge of overall opinion.  I guess the CCP is getting tired of just deleting stuff, and wishes to more directly affect the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the CCP and relevant organs speak of &#8220;truth&#8221; and &#8220;facts&#8221;, it&#8217;s always difficult to suppress laughter.  Although it&#8217;s interesting that they suggest delegating the &#8220;fact rescue&#8221; mission to scholars, rather than relying on the CCP&#8217;s own tried-and-true fact-generation mechanism, which may not be very effective but certainly tries very hard.  Perhaps these &#8220;scholars&#8221; are to lend these new &#8220;facts&#8221; an air of legitimacy that the old-fashioned CCP methods couldn&#8217;t hope to project or obtain.</p>
<p>That being said, I do agree that the nature of internet discourse skews the discussion towards an over-representation of discontent.  There&#8217;s an inherent selection and responder bias in those who go online and choose to comment, such that it is not scientifically reliable as a gauge of overall opinion.  I guess the CCP is getting tired of just deleting stuff, and wishes to more directly affect the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Cookie Monster</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/06/public-opinion-in-china-does-not-reflect-the-public/comment-page-1/#comment-176158</link>
		<dc:creator>Cookie Monster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 19:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re right in that people with complaints are the most motivated to leave comments, but they could solve the problem just as easily by addressing the complaints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re right in that people with complaints are the most motivated to leave comments, but they could solve the problem just as easily by addressing the complaints.</p>
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		<title>By: justrecently</title>
		<link>http://www.pekingduck.org/2012/06/public-opinion-in-china-does-not-reflect-the-public/comment-page-1/#comment-176156</link>
		<dc:creator>justrecently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 19:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only if the policy think tanks think correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only if the policy think tanks think correctly.</p>
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